Rags Debt - Daily Mail & Panorama [Merged]

Whitworth warrior said:
Pam said:
No, I don't see the difference. Unless you're saying that the club with the biggest gate receipts and merchandising should be preserved in aspic and never challenged. Because that's the logical conclusion if you're going to say some sources of income are more virtuous than others. That approach would stifle competition and would be a disaster for football in the long run.

Load of Twattini claptrap.
It stops money men buying a club with a few thousand fans small unsuitable grounds and having them compete with the top clubs of Europe, just because they are rich and they can do it, it’s unfair to clubs that are trying to do it the hard way.

I think holding United up as some bastion of doing things the "hard" or "proper" way is a bit disingenuous.

Your ruthless commercial operation and exploitation of fans over the last 20 years was hardly the most ethical means to an end, after all.

If anything it was this commercialisation of the game that led to the Premiership becoming so attractive to foreign investors, so it's a bit rich to complain now that other clubs are able to compete with you, and ultimately surpass you, financially. You reap what you sow.
 
Ric said:
Whitworth warrior said:
It stops money men buying a club with a few thousand fans small unsuitable grounds and having them compete with the top clubs of Europe, just because they are rich and they can do it, it’s unfair to clubs that are trying to do it the hard way.

I think holding United up as some bastion of doing things the "hard" or "proper" way is a bit disingenuous.

Your ruthless commercial operation and exploitation of fans over the last 20 years was hardly the most ethical means to an end, after all.

If anything it was this commercialisation of the game that led to the Premiership becoming so attractive to foreign investors, so it's a bit rich to complain now that other clubs are able to compete with you, and ultimately surpass you, financially. You reap what you sow.
I totally agree with you, things are bad now, but pre Glazers it was great.
 
CITY FOR LIFE said:
Balti said:
Typical Bennies ;-)
LOL, you know what I mean then?

I certainly do mate. Perhaps we could stick the whole lot of 'em on Weddell or somewhere like that. Far enough away to be slightly less offensive. Although we'd miss out on the all the entertainment and humour that they have been providing us with lately!
 
Whitworth warrior said:
Pam said:
No, I don't see the difference. Unless you're saying that the club with the biggest gate receipts and merchandising should be preserved in aspic and never challenged. Because that's the logical conclusion if you're going to say some sources of income are more virtuous than others. That approach would stifle competition and would be a disaster for football in the long run.

Load of Twattini claptrap.
It stops money men buying a club with a few thousand fans small unsuitable grounds and having them compete with the top clubs of Europe, just because they are rich and they can do it, it’s unfair to clubs that are trying to do it the hard way.

Ah, but in the name of fairness we might also implement a rule where all revenue are shared equally in the leagues? I mean..why is it fair that the clubs that earn more also can outbid other clubs, ain´t that unfair to smaller clubs?
 
Forgive me if anyone else has mentioned this but the part of the show that really got me interested was the bit about the Tampa Bay Bucs..When they took over at the rags noises were made about how they had won the Super Bowl just two years earlier...Fast Forward 5 years the Bucs are the lowest spenders and one of the NFLs worst teams yet money isn't an issue....the last bit sounds oh so familiar.
 

Doing it the hard way? Just accept it. You've had your turn. Now it's someone else's turn. Deluded idiot.
 
Whitworth warrior said:
Ric said:
I think holding United up as some bastion of doing things the "hard" or "proper" way is a bit disingenuous.

Your ruthless commercial operation and exploitation of fans over the last 20 years was hardly the most ethical means to an end, after all.

If anything it was this commercialisation of the game that led to the Premiership becoming so attractive to foreign investors, so it's a bit rich to complain now that other clubs are able to compete with you, and ultimately surpass you, financially. You reap what you sow.
I totally agree with you, things are bad now, but pre Glazers it was great.

Conversely for us, post Glazer things are great. That's the beauty of football I suppose, it's always cyclical.
 
The Rags have gone full circle from Rags to riches and back to just plain old Rags. Guess it's a case of once a Rag always a Rag.
 

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