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Thaksinssoldier said:
g180aj said:
IWasHere said:
I've watched them quite a bit and he hasn't impressed me. He's a one season wonder.

Your missing the point, in that 1 season he was playing alongside 1 of the best players in the world in Suarez and a in form Sturridge, this season he is liverpools only threat, for us he could be playing alongside Pogba, de Bruyne, silva and another one of the best strikers in the world in Aguero. If you play barca you have to stop Messi, Suarez, Neymar and invest a, at Real you have Ronaldo, Bale, James, benzema and Isco, at Bayern you have to stop Robben, Ribery, muller, and Gotze. Liverpool have Sterling! And he's fucking 20!
Not only that we need home grown players and he can play in 4 positions.

I think you are missing the point. He looked good surrounded by top players. We don't need those players. Nasri, Dzeko, Navas are players who look good when surrounded by top players. What we need are actual top players. Someone who'll impact a game consistently even if the other top players are injured or having an off day.

A lot of us don't believe Sterling can be that guy. My evidence is how good Rodgers has always made wide players look. Scott Sinclair looked as good as Sterling under Rodgers, he just didn't have Sturridge and Suarez opening up the game for him like Sterling did, or the Liverpool hype machine bigging him up. Stick Sinclair into our squad and look what happened.

I don't care if he's 20 and could turn into a world class player. Right now he clearly isn't despite what the daily mail tell you. He certainly isn't worth anything over 30 million.

I don't get the Sterling hatred... How many 19 year olds are an integral part of a team that was a slip away from winning the prem? I mean he's definitely not going to get sold for anything more than £40 mil and I think it would be around £30 mil. Hes young, talented, and fills the fast creative winger we desperately need. If you already don't think he has the potential to be worth £30 mil then we should just stop our youth teams and sell everyone because no one, not even rony Rekik denayer or iheanacho, are even close to as proven as Sterling is. we may be slightly overpaying for his current skill but Monaco did the same thing with a young james and definitely got their money's worth... I'm struggling to think of another 20 year old attacker that would start for us
 
Ballertelli said:
Thaksinssoldier said:
g180aj said:
Your missing the point, in that 1 season he was playing alongside 1 of the best players in the world in Suarez and a in form Sturridge, this season he is liverpools only threat, for us he could be playing alongside Pogba, de Bruyne, silva and another one of the best strikers in the world in Aguero. If you play barca you have to stop Messi, Suarez, Neymar and invest a, at Real you have Ronaldo, Bale, James, benzema and Isco, at Bayern you have to stop Robben, Ribery, muller, and Gotze. Liverpool have Sterling! And he's fucking 20!
Not only that we need home grown players and he can play in 4 positions.

I think you are missing the point. He looked good surrounded by top players. We don't need those players. Nasri, Dzeko, Navas are players who look good when surrounded by top players. What we need are actual top players. Someone who'll impact a game consistently even if the other top players are injured or having an off day.

A lot of us don't believe Sterling can be that guy. My evidence is how good Rodgers has always made wide players look. Scott Sinclair looked as good as Sterling under Rodgers, he just didn't have Sturridge and Suarez opening up the game for him like Sterling did, or the Liverpool hype machine bigging him up. Stick Sinclair into our squad and look what happened.

I don't care if he's 20 and could turn into a world class player. Right now he clearly isn't despite what the daily mail tell you. He certainly isn't worth anything over 30 million.

I don't get the Sterling hatred... How many 19 year olds are an integral part of a team that was a slip away from winning the prem? I mean he's definitely not going to get sold for anything more than £40 mil and I think it would be around £30 mil. Hes young, talented, and fills the fast creative winger we desperately need. If you already don't think he has the potential to be worth £30 mil then we should just stop our youth teams and sell everyone because no one, not even rony Rekik denayer or iheanacho, are even close to as proven as Sterling is. we may be slightly overpaying for his current skill but Monaco did the same thing with a young james and definitely got their money's worth... I'm struggling to think of another 20 year old attacker that would start for us
Hmmmmm. One slip away from winning the championship. We won by two points and better goal difference. Even if he had not slipped the best they could have done is earned a point, and they lost that game by two goals not one!
That slip could be replaced by kompanys sliced clearance that gave dippers points in our match against them. They were only in contention because of that slice......
 
Hart of the matter said:
Ballertelli said:
Thaksinssoldier said:
I think you are missing the point. He looked good surrounded by top players. We don't need those players. Nasri, Dzeko, Navas are players who look good when surrounded by top players. What we need are actual top players. Someone who'll impact a game consistently even if the other top players are injured or having an off day.

A lot of us don't believe Sterling can be that guy. My evidence is how good Rodgers has always made wide players look. Scott Sinclair looked as good as Sterling under Rodgers, he just didn't have Sturridge and Suarez opening up the game for him like Sterling did, or the Liverpool hype machine bigging him up. Stick Sinclair into our squad and look what happened.

I don't care if he's 20 and could turn into a world class player. Right now he clearly isn't despite what the daily mail tell you. He certainly isn't worth anything over 30 million.

I don't get the Sterling hatred... How many 19 year olds are an integral part of a team that was a slip away from winning the prem? I mean he's definitely not going to get sold for anything more than £40 mil and I think it would be around £30 mil. Hes young, talented, and fills the fast creative winger we desperately need. If you already don't think he has the potential to be worth £30 mil then we should just stop our youth teams and sell everyone because no one, not even rony Rekik denayer or iheanacho, are even close to as proven as Sterling is. we may be slightly overpaying for his current skill but Monaco did the same thing with a young james and definitely got their money's worth... I'm struggling to think of another 20 year old attacker that would start for us
Hmmmmm. One slip away from winning the championship. We won by two points and better goal difference. Even if he had not slipped the best they could have done is earned a point, and they lost that game by two goals not one!
That slip could be replaced by kompanys sliced clearance that gave dippers points in our match against them. They were only in contention because of that slice......

Sorry didn't mean the slip that way, just trying to say they were close and were leading late in the season. Just trying to be punny ;)
 
g180aj said:
Thaksinssoldier said:
g180aj said:
Your missing the point, in that 1 season he was playing alongside 1 of the best players in the world in Suarez and a in form Sturridge, this season he is liverpools only threat, for us he could be playing alongside Pogba, de Bruyne, silva and another one of the best strikers in the world in Aguero. If you play barca you have to stop Messi, Suarez, Neymar and invest a, at Real you have Ronaldo, Bale, James, benzema and Isco, at Bayern you have to stop Robben, Ribery, muller, and Gotze. Liverpool have Sterling! And he's fucking 20!
Not only that we need home grown players and he can play in 4 positions.

I think you are missing the point. He looked good surrounded by top players. We don't need those players. Nasri, Dzeko, Navas are players who look good when surrounded by top players. What we need are actual top players. Someone who'll impact a game consistently even if the other top players are injured or having an off day.

A lot of us don't believe Sterling can be that guy. My evidence is how good Rodgers has always made wide players look. Scott Sinclair looked as good as Sterling under Rodgers, he just didn't have Sturridge and Suarez opening up the game for him like Sterling did, or the Liverpool hype machine bigging him up. Stick Sinclair into our squad and look what happened.

I don't care if he's 20 and could turn into a world class player. Right now he clearly isn't despite what the daily mail tell you. He certainly isn't worth anything over 30 million.

I completely agree as far as price he isn't worth more than £30mill nor do I actually think that we will pay £50 mill either, and yes he isn't world class but it doesn't mean he won't be in a couple of years and not only that he is home grown. In a season where Liverpool have been verry average he still has 11 assists and 7 goals which is the same contribution as Nasri and Jovetic combined in a team with kun, silva and yaya, not only that but he did that at 20 years old!

So as much as the press are overrating raheem I think that many on here are are under rating raheem, it's funny really that he's been shit this season and still offered as much as Samir and Stevan who cost us just short of £50million and pick up around £250,000-300,000 a week.
If you're playing fantasy football then yes, Sterling has contributed exactly the same as Nasri and Jovetic combined this season. However, football is about more than just goals and assists. You can use statistics to prove almost anything.

Sterling has more assists than Silva this season, does that make him a more creative player?
 
Ballertelli said:
Hart of the matter said:
Ballertelli said:
I don't get the Sterling hatred... How many 19 year olds are an integral part of a team that was a slip away from winning the prem? I mean he's definitely not going to get sold for anything more than £40 mil and I think it would be around £30 mil. Hes young, talented, and fills the fast creative winger we desperately need. If you already don't think he has the potential to be worth £30 mil then we should just stop our youth teams and sell everyone because no one, not even rony Rekik denayer or iheanacho, are even close to as proven as Sterling is. we may be slightly overpaying for his current skill but Monaco did the same thing with a young james and definitely got their money's worth... I'm struggling to think of another 20 year old attacker that would start for us
Hmmmmm. One slip away from winning the championship. We won by two points and better goal difference. Even if he had not slipped the best they could have done is earned a point, and they lost that game by two goals not one!
That slip could be replaced by kompanys sliced clearance that gave dippers points in our match against them. They were only in contention because of that slice......

Sorry didn't mean the slip that way, just trying to say they were close and were leading late in the season. Just trying to be punny ;)
No worries. I too believe he would be an asset. Just pissed off with the slip myth. It made little if any difference to the seasons outcome. I suspect that Chelsea would still have scored their second goal on the break as Liverpool would have needed to go for a win....[SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
 
Sterling is exactly the type of player we need. I think more than anything it's his movement off the ball and runs in behind that will benefit us more than anything else because it stretches teams and gives the likes of Silva and Aguero more room to create and score, his dribbling ability means teams are hesitant to leave him 1 vs 1 and it creates even more space. He's certainly got the work rate to fit into the high pressing style too and being young and homegrown is just an added bonus.
 
kenzie115 said:
g180aj said:
Thaksinssoldier said:
I think you are missing the point. He looked good surrounded by top players. We don't need those players. Nasri, Dzeko, Navas are players who look good when surrounded by top players. What we need are actual top players. Someone who'll impact a game consistently even if the other top players are injured or having an off day.

A lot of us don't believe Sterling can be that guy. My evidence is how good Rodgers has always made wide players look. Scott Sinclair looked as good as Sterling under Rodgers, he just didn't have Sturridge and Suarez opening up the game for him like Sterling did, or the Liverpool hype machine bigging him up. Stick Sinclair into our squad and look what happened.

I don't care if he's 20 and could turn into a world class player. Right now he clearly isn't despite what the daily mail tell you. He certainly isn't worth anything over 30 million.

I completely agree as far as price he isn't worth more than £30mill nor do I actually think that we will pay £50 mill either, and yes he isn't world class but it doesn't mean he won't be in a couple of years and not only that he is home grown. In a season where Liverpool have been verry average he still has 11 assists and 7 goals which is the same contribution as Nasri and Jovetic combined in a team with kun, silva and yaya, not only that but he did that at 20 years old!

So as much as the press are overrating raheem I think that many on here are are under rating raheem, it's funny really that he's been shit this season and still offered as much as Samir and Stevan who cost us just short of £50million and pick up around £250,000-300,000 a week.
If you're playing fantasy football then yes, Sterling has contributed exactly the same as Nasri and Jovetic combined this season. However, football is about more than just goals and assists. You can use statistics to prove almost anything.

Sterling has more assists than Silva this season, does that make him a more creative player?

I think you'll find they both have 11 assists! And I used the 2 people in question as they are ideally for us the 2 left sided attacking midfielders meaning he would be filling there place, before you mention silva his best position is in the hole( and the best attacking mid in the league). Yes you can use stats but my point is he isn't the finished article but he has still contributed that to Liverpool when he is looking average, so there is no reason why putting him a team with world class players wouldn't give him the platform he needs to be world class.
 
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