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Red Cafe in meltdown
- Thread starter Ric
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Within the last few days most of the press were claiming that Peg had got back his mojo and the team were on a fantastic run with their wins at Bournemouth and Juve. It's ridiculous. It has been many years since he was an effective manager for any club. Many journalists praised him for his post-match behaviour in Turin but it's clear to anyone looking at him that he is increasingly unstable and I have heard from people who work at United that behind the scenes he is despised (by non playing staff) None of this is being reported in the UK media.
I thought it was classless and so did quite a few of the United legends, most vocal of whom was Paul Scholes.
Perhaps some of these journalists were eagerly hoping for a story in which a down-and-out managers turns it around, but for anyone who watched that performance against Juventus (or indeed any of their recent performances), it's clear that the result wasn't indicative of the performance and was an anomaly.
Juventus missed sitters that my grandmother could have tucked away and hit the post on several occasions before 2 set pieces did them in. That's not sustainable. Luck does run out, and while a team that is badly outplayed can ride it's luck for a match or two, over the long run, results line up with performances.
There was nothing positive about the Juventus performance where they were badly outplayed. And there less positive about this match against City where we tore them from pillar to post and made them look like a pub side.
I don't think there's a media bias either in favor of him or against him; I just think that it would have been a compelling narrative to have him right the ship. As it is, this destruction seems to have calmed down a few of those journalists about which you've spoken.
Within the last few days most of the press were claiming that Peg had got back his mojo and the team were on a fantastic run with their wins at Bournemouth and Juve. It's ridiculous. It has been many years since he was an effective manager for any club. Many journalists praised him for his post-match behaviour in Turin but it's clear to anyone looking at him that he is increasingly unstable and I have heard from people who work at United that behind the scenes he is despised (by non playing staff) None of this is being reported in the UK media.
Nobody said he has his mojo back in the slightest. Lets not become part of fake news that's all over the internet. I love them little runs they go on, papers over the cracks fantastically and gives Jose more time in his job rather than being at the point of win or be sacked. Fantastic times.
Gareth Barry Conlon
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Thread: http://www.redcafe.net/threads/why-did-we-buy-fred.442354/
Reply No1: Because we thought he'd be better than he currently is, I guess?
Reply No1: Because we thought he'd be better than he currently is, I guess?
Onholiday(somemightsay)
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Harry Maguire was apparently their main target in the summer (from what we are led to believe), so add him into United's starting line up........It's amazing how much they try to cling to the money being the difference.
Their Squad cost £673.5 million to assemble. £351m of that spent in 3 years under Jose.
There's two things that put that in context. Firslty - our squad cost £707m. It's more, that's true, but the difference between the two teams is Mangala. Who's not exactly contributing is he?
The second thing is that the 6 teams between us and United in the table have all spent nowhere near as much as them.
United's squad cost more than Spurs and Arsenal's squads combined.
Whilst he is a decent player, they wouldn't have approached the game any differently and it wouldn't have panned out any differently.
There is so much wrong with the hierarchy, management and playing staff, to get to where they are wanting to be you are just as well throwing the entire lot in the bin and starting again they are that far off the pace
On their postmatch thread I counted at least 20 posters expressing the sentiment that if Pogba played it “would have made a difference.” PMSL, maybe him plus half of Barcelona. And a different manager.
To be fair, some are deluded but many are well aware the fact that they are bang average as reflected in their current table position and -1 goal difference.
It would've made a difference, no doubt in my mind at all about that, they would've been a lot less disciplined and easier to play though.
bluethrunthru
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Harry Maguire was apparently their main target in the summer (from what we are led to believe), so add him into United's starting line up........
Whilst he is a decent player, they wouldn't have approached the game any differently and it wouldn't have panned out any differently.
There is so much wrong with the hierarchy, management and playing staff, to get to where they are wanting to be you are just as well throwing the entire lot in the bin and starting again they are that far off the pace
a big strapping six footer............a rag target..........never !!!
SilverFox2
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I think they do at least the media have recognised that biased views of events sell just as easily as if they actually happened.That thread surely has to be a windup. I've never seen something like this before. Do they actually believe the words that they're typing?
Surely they are allowed to get over their disappointment by rationalising the facts?
Neville Kneville
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Harry Maguire was apparently their main target in the summer (from what we are led to believe), so add him into United's starting line up........
Whilst he is a decent player, they wouldn't have approached the game any differently and it wouldn't have panned out any differently.
There is so much wrong with the hierarchy, management and playing staff, to get to where they are wanting to be you are just as well throwing the entire lot in the bin and starting again they are that far off the pace
Harry Maguire would be their top goalscorer.
Nobody said he has his mojo back in the slightest. Lets not become part of fake news that's all over the internet. I love them little runs they go on, papers over the cracks fantastically and gives Jose more time in his job rather than being at the point of win or be sacked. Fantastic times.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46157221