Red Cafe in meltdown

Feel this thread is a bit overdue, given how gleeful they are in their equivalent when we lose. Besides, I hate having a United megathread for everything about them.

To kick you off, we have this, the most lame capitulation to a defeat that you could imagine:

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/when-you-consider-the-gap-between-the-two-sides.442829/

One or two ragamuffins hit the nail on the head with some of those posts - too many Rag players are bang average, and the one guy who suggested that Pep would sell half of them on day one is right on the money! They seem to think that donning a red shirt gives them the kind of class that money, and only money, as any idiot would tell you, can buy. Try buying a Maserati for a hundred quid!
 
I think they do at least the media have recognised that biased views of events sell just as easily as if they actually happened.

Surely they are allowed to get over their disappointment by rationalising the facts?

In my opinion, people can be obdurate when facing facts that disprove their predictions. Many of the United fans on redcafe were ecstatic when Mourinho was hired as they confidently predicted that he'd win the title and "drive Guardiola away", "just as he did in Spain". ",Mourinho is premiership tested and Guardiola is out of his depth."

We had football figures such as Patrick Barclay and Stan Collymore dismiss Guardiola from the beginning while suggesting that Mourinho would better him.

Then the last 2 years unfolded and shattered those predictions. Those who made them have gotten more defensive, more rancorous, and more obdurate, rather than admit they've gotten it wrong. It's a habit of humans. Stan Collymore has shifted his goalposts and is now crying about the money that Guardiola has spent.

It seems to me as though some of the posters on redcafe (the Mourinho cult) is doing the same thing. I dont think that anyone can actually believe some of that tripe. I think it's more of a face-saving situation where the Mourinho brigade are getting reminded of how wrongly they got it and instead of holding their hands up, they're locking down and shifting goal posts.
 
Nobody said he has his mojo back in the slightest. Lets not become part of fake news that's all over the internet. I love them little runs they go on, papers over the cracks fantastically and gives Jose more time in his job rather than being at the point of win or be sacked. Fantastic times.


Not sure if I'd call it his "mojo" being back, but to be fair to Mourinho I do think he's massively improved his mood in the last few weeks. He's stopped ripping his players and sulking in press conferences, he's stopped just sitting in his chair miserably, he enjoyed the back and forth vs. Juventus fans.

Pogba's agent said they've patched things up and are getting on now as well.

They're still playing shit, but Mourinho seems much happier. I don't know if it's just because he realised his sulking teenager act wasn't working, or because he's just resigned to a shit season and is waiting for the sack. He even resisted taking a dig at us over the football leaks stuff.
 
Not sure if I'd call it his "mojo" being back, but to be fair to Mourinho I do think he's massively improved his mood in the last few weeks. He's stopped ripping his players and sulking in press conferences, he's stopped just sitting in his chair miserably, he enjoyed the back and forth vs. Juventus fans.

Pogba's agent said they've patched things up and are getting on now as well.

They're still playing shit, but Mourinho seems much happier. I don't know if it's just because he realised his sulking teenager act wasn't working, or because he's just resigned to a shit season and is waiting for the sack. He even resisted taking a dig at us over the football leaks stuff.

Mourihno getting his mojo back? The guy needs to buy a load of viagra grind it up and snort it through a drain pipe after yesterday.
 
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a big strapping six footer............a rag target..........never !!!
But this is it thought isn't it?

He would have cost them circa £75m we are led to believe, Mourinho is still trying to sign players for this poor system and style or play.

This is a manager who gets employed based on his quick, short-term success (as per his track record), what else did they expect?

They are throwing a lot of money at it without any overall strategy - just sh#te.
 
I thought it was classless and so did quite a few of the United legends, most vocal of whom was Paul Scholes.

Perhaps some of these journalists were eagerly hoping for a story in which a down-and-out managers turns it around, but for anyone who watched that performance against Juventus (or indeed any of their recent performances), it's clear that the result wasn't indicative of the performance and was an anomaly.

Juventus missed sitters that my grandmother could have tucked away and hit the post on several occasions before 2 set pieces did them in. That's not sustainable. Luck does run out, and while a team that is badly outplayed can ride it's luck for a match or two, over the long run, results line up with performances.

There was nothing positive about the Juventus performance where they were badly outplayed. And there less positive about this match against City where we tore them from pillar to post and made them look like a pub side.

I don't think there's a media bias either in favor of him or against him; I just think that it would have been a compelling narrative to have him right the ship. As it is, this destruction seems to have calmed down a few of those journalists about which you've spoken.
Agree with most of this. I think Peg was loved by the Uk media for a long time, no doubt because he provided good stories for them. I think the tide has turned in the last six months. I do think he was given a lot of time though before the press vultures started to circle. For me he has been on the wane for years and the League Cup/ Europa season was a glitch. The problem United have got now is who to bring in. I am not sure Platini is the answer. They need a complete structural re-build. It just looks like an old-fashioned club. It's not just their fans who are stuck in the past.
 
But this is it thought isn't it?

He would have cost them circa £75m we are led to believe, Mourinho is still trying to sign players for this poor system and style or play.

This is a manager who gets employed based on his quick, short-term success (as per his track record), what else did they expect?

They are throwing a lot of money at it without any overall strategy - just sh#te.


yeah but ladders are cheap mate - if the Glasers find that out it will be Fellaini and Mata ( with his ladder ) up front for the long ball ha ha ha
 

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