You know what, and this isn't going to be a popular opinion on here, but a lot of what I read on Red Cafe...isn't that bad at all. They have a lot of complimentary things to say about City, their Haaland thread was a good read. There is obviously a rivalry but you can also sense a jealousy, a grudging appreciation of our players and how we play. There are a few plant-pots on there with mad conspiracy theories, but on the whole they have a nice line in self-deprecating humour, and a shared hatred of Liverpool of course. Now compare that to the pool fans who are just mental cultists who think the world and their dog is out to to see them fail (which might be the case actually given how insufferable their fan base are when they win things).