Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[True blue manc]

I’m sure you’ll think they were non controversial decisions but whether they were right or wrong, the fact is that a lot of people not connected to City or Liverpool thought that Kompany should have been sent off in the 2-1 Sanè game and that Manè shouldn’t when he kicked Ederson in the head.

If you want to go back in time, we had the David White crossbar goal. But I honestly can’t remember whether there was any proof one way or the other if that had crossed the line or not.

A lot of people not connected with City or Liverpool thought Mane should've stayed on when he kicked Ederson?Exactly who?One of the most obvious red cards I have ever seen.Is that really one of the best examples you can give of City getting a 50/50 call agains Liverpool?If it is no wonder people are paranoid non of the marginals go our way

 

[halfcenturyup]

What else is it? There’s no proof of any corruption barring something Mark Halsey has said anecdotally to someone and Mark Clattenburg giving a corner when it should have been a goal kick.

It‘s an emotive yelp that is shouted by fans of all clubs, making it more and more meaningless.

The vast majority of refereeing decisions are subjective and hardly ever 100% either way. When they aren’t 100%, both outcomes will invariably happen at different points in different games.

The refs aren’t robots. The game is ridiculously fast these days. Some decisions will always be best guesses and whilst VAR isn’t used to re-referee, they’ll back up the onfield decision if they can. Whether that’s right or not is another subjective issue. Some want more involvement, some want none.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I don’t think it’s coordinated. I don’t think they have to say anything but I imagine as refs are learning their trade they’ll pick up it career suicide to give bad decisions there, may be even jokes about it.

It’s institutional bias, it’s like how many penalties we’ve been awarded versus the Rags in 40 years.

I am staggered that people still can't accept that "levelling up" (for whatever reason) can happen actually on the pitch, as well as off it.

 

[cheekybids]

I am staggered that people still can't accept that "levelling up" (for whatever reason) can happen actually on the pitch, as well as off it.

How many red cards do teams get against us?

The interpretation of what constitutes a yellow is now part of levelling up. If you continually foul with a low block you wont be carded but if you do the same exact foul but in 40 yards of space it’s a card. Both are cynical but the progressive club is punished & we know who that team is.

 

[cleavers]

The refs aren’t robots. The game is ridiculously fast these days. Some decisions will always be best guesses and whilst VAR isn’t used to re-referee, they’ll back up the onfield decision if they can. Whether that’s right or not is another subjective issue. Some want more involvement, some want none.

I think one or two are robots, programmed to be anti City decision wise. Var is used to re-referee games when it suits the team.

What annoys me most is the inconsistency from game to game (team to team in fact), we are definitely refereed more stringently than "some others", what's really sad, it's now turned up in the womens game too. On Sunday, Bunny Shaw was clearly elbowed in the face in the box against arsenal, result, arsenal goal kick, if the referee didn't actually see it, she should be sacked.

 

[cheekybids]

I think one or two are robots, programmed to be anti City decision wise. Var is used to re-referee games when it suits the team.

What annoys me most is the inconsistency from game to game (team to team in fact), we are definitely refereed more stringently than "some others", what's really sad, it's now turned up in the womens game too. On Sunday, Bunny Shaw was clearly elbowed in the face in the box against arsenal, result, arsenal goal kick, if the referee didn't actually see it, she should be sacked.

The women’s game v Chelsea earlier in the season was unbelievable.

 

[cleavers]

The women’s game v Chelsea earlier in the season was unbelievable.

It was, but that referee actually works for chelsea, how that's allowed in the game is anyones guess.

 

[cheekybids]

It was, but that referee actually works for chelsea, how that's allowed in the game is anyones guess.

Seriously? I don’t follow news / gossip but I actually watch a few games with my daughter on TV & it was astoundingly bad.

 

[lasereyes]

Pretty well at home and not very well away.

Referees being influenced at Anfield isn’t corruption, it’s being swayed by atmosphere and history.

Champions League 2018 at Etihad
- Sane goal disallowed - one of the worst decisions in living memory
- Firmino: stone dead second yellow for holding back KDB. Not given
- 2 handball shouts early on. I'll call those 50/50 but both went against us

Then Dias's goal this year chalked off after Allison dropped the ball

A few contrary folks here talk about the Kompany tackle in 2019 (which btw didn't touch the opponent) but conveniently ignore that Gomez (IIRC) should have walked earlier in that game for a dreadful tackle on Aguero

 

[halfcenturyup]

Referees being influenced at Anfield isn’t corruption, it’s being swayed by atmosphere and history.

:)

Ivan Toney should have tried that defence: "I wasn't breaking the betting rules. I was being swayed by greed and financial benefit".