Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[Baggins.mcfc]

Everyone knows we needed VAR because our referees, are either shit or incompetent, or just bent as fuck. I will never understand how once we get VAR we then give the VAR job to the same shit referees and expect them to be any different. 2 nailed on penalties yesterday not given and because its City they just say, its not clear and obvious. Well its clear and obvious to me. Cheating bastards.

 

[pride in battle]

The second penalty Lee Dixon said 'Var ruled no penalty before he had even hit the floor' if it was the other way round rags would have had 2 pens

 

[Norman kneejerk]

Watched it back this morning and Shearer was a total cnut yesterday.
Great defending my arse.
Then buzzing about the rags time wasting "they're entitled to do it".
Pathetic from him, the bias twat

He was a disgrace. And the thick bastard probably hasn't realised its cost the geordies a European spot

 

[BringBackSwales]

Watched it back this morning and Shearer was a total cnut yesterday.
Great defending my arse.
Then buzzing about the rags time wasting "they're entitled to do it".
Pathetic from him, the bias twat

And we are entitled to have the appropriate amount of stoppage time, like arse dippers and rags do. Madley is a **** and showed that against Everton at home last season

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Ref was poor throughou from allowing time wasting from the first minute through to the end. In fact given he only added on seven minutes I don’t think he added anything on for it. Most of those seven minutes were because of the midget‘s injury and all the subs. There probably should have been 10-12 added to start with. Bottled the first pen and probably didn’t see the second. OliVAR wouldn’t want any fuss so left it up to the ref.Allowed a lot of physical contact on us, nothing for them. Had he awarded the first penalty he would have had to have shown a red. I would also like to understand why rat face wasn’t shown yellow for stopping a quick free kick being taken whilst only stood a few feet away. That‘s been standard for many seasons now. Very poor performance by the ref almost matched by our first half on3 by our standard.

 

[PuncturedBicycle]

...and how long was the VAR check for their first goal? Apparently it was VERY tight but we wouldn't really know as one singular angle was shown (the wrong angle) and the goal was awarded as soon as it hit the back of the net. In the prem in multiple matches EVERY week for thirty-odd weeks you very, very rarely see a check for a VERY tight call given as quickly as that.

Any screen caps of his run? Watched the highlights but camera doesn't show him making the run

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

It's mad what defenders get away with doing to Haaland every week. He has to be the victim of an assault to win a free kick, and its a big reason as to why he hasn't been as effective recently. Needs to start stamping on toes and leaving pointy elbows out as the referees aren't giving him any protection whatsoever.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Any screen caps of his run? Watched the highlights but camera doesn't show him making the run

I've seen one solitary angle mate, and it's one from the camera by our right corner. Totally inconclusive view. The freeze frame they used on MotD/BBC FA Cup highlights looks to be prior to the ball being kicked and, by complete coincidence of course, this freeze frame is fractions of a second before Stones (?) stepped up and even then it looks pretty tight.

Where's the forensic analysis from EVERY week in the prem?

He may be on, he may be off, I doubt we'll ever know, despite the BiasedBritishBroadcaster's attempts to tell us that he was "CLEARLY ONSIDE".

 

[PuncturedBicycle]

I've seen one solitary angle mate, and it's one from the camera by our right corner. Totally inconclusive view. The freeze frame they used on MotD/BBC FA Cup highlights looks to be prior to the ball being kicked and, by complete coincidence of course, this freeze frame is fractions of a second before Stones (?) stepped up and even then it looks pretty tight.

Where's the forensic analysis from EVERY week in the prem?

He may be on, he may be off, I doubt we'll ever know, despite the BiasedBritishBroadcaster's attempts to tell us that he was "CLEARLY ONSIDE".

Really seemed offside from where I was sat on the halfway line yesterday but I'm obviously biased.

Unsurprising they showed zero interest in checking anything which could benefit us yesterday. Can't have been that different than the "clear offside" goal Coventry scored against the rags in the semi.

And of course an angle from the corner camera is the best way to check an offside. Poor showing for a cup final.

 

[levets]

One thing that puzzled me and is clearly a loop hole/ cheat exposed by the rags….
As we were chasing the equaliser, we got a corner, but Martinez went down injured (was he or just time wasting?), the physio came on and he clearly received treatment. Now isn’t the player supposed to stay off for 30 seconds of play, therefore they would have been a player short (a centre back) to defend our corner?
But no, as soon as he got up and before the corner could be taken, they subbed Martinez for Evans, therefore avoiding the 30 second rule. This is just taking the piss! Brailsford and marginal gains?

 

[Bald fraud]

Ref was a rotten worm

Both pens for me. Look at varans face as he turns around and sees martinez Barge haaland in the back just as the ball is about to drop on his head. His look says oh shit! He knows it’s a pen!

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Both pens for me. Look at varans face as he turns around and sees martinez Barge haaland in the back just as the ball is about to drop on his head. His look says oh shit! He knows it’s a pen!

Yep, and the same faces were on show (plus a few players with their arms up pleading for the ref not to give it) after the Mainoo bearhug and grapple to the floor incident.

Both penalties and both red cards if the law is applied as no attempt to play the ball in either, Mainoo was also on a yellow card at the time too.

 

[alexmcity]

They didn't show the penalty situations with Haaland from different angles. Or I didn't see them being shown from different angles. They could/should have been given.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Yep, and the same faces were on show (plus a few players with their arms up pleading for the ref not to give it) after the Mainoo bearhug and grapple to the floor incident.

Both penalties and both red cards if the law is applied as no attempt to play the ball in either, Mainoo was also on a yellow card at the time too.

We have more chance of sky blue pigs flying over Wembley than the LotG being applied as they are written.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Yep, and the same faces were on show (plus a few players with their arms up pleading for the ref not to give it) after the Mainoo bearhug and grapple to the floor incident.

Both penalties and both red cards if the law is applied as no attempt to play the ball in either, Mainoo was also on a yellow card at the time too.

We had our ration of red cards when the Ginger Pig was given his marching orders in 2011! We've got another twenty years to go. Remember how long it was to get a pen at The Swamp - think it was summat like 30yrs+.

 

[Stephen230]

We had our ration of red cards when the Ginger Pig was given his marching orders in 2011! We've got another twenty years to go. Remember how long it was to get a pen at The Swamp - think it was summat like 30yrs+.

Even if, for the sake of argument, it’s agreed that they both should have been penalties, neither was even remotely close to an offence that would justify a red card.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Even if, for the sake of argument, it’s agreed that they both should have been penalties, neither was even remotely close to an offence that would justify a red card.

I'm sorry mate, but...


DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY (DOGSO)

Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball or a challenge for the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.), the offending player must be sent off.

What was Martinez's little push? An honest attempt to play the ball?
What was Mainoo's bearhug and grapple to the floor? An attempt to challenge for the ball or an attempt to hold the attacker?

 

[paulchapo]

Andrew and Bobby Madely, brothers and both anti City cunts is all you need to know.

 

[Stephen230]

I'm sorry mate, but...


DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY (DOGSO)

Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball or a challenge for the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.), the offending player must be sent off.

What was Martinez's little push? An honest attempt to play the ball?
What was Mainoo's bearhug and grapple to the floor? An attempt to challenge for the ball or an attempt to hold the attacker?

There used to be a specification that for a DOGSO a player had to be in control of the ball and heading towards goal. I think that was removed because in cases where a player knocked the ball sideways to go round the ‘keeper and was taken out, they weren’t been sent off because the ball wasn’t heading in the direction of the goal. Even though it was clearly still a clear goal scoring opportunity.

The new considerations are now

*Distance between the player and the goal.

*General direction of play.

*Likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball.

*Location and number of defenders.

So technically, yes you could just about make a case that a defender holding down a player as a cross is coming in fits in to those considerations.

But while there is usually always an exception to the rule, I honestly can’t ever remember a player being sent off in anything even remotely similar to those Haaland incidents.

There’s so much that’s got to happen even without him being fouled for a goal to be scored, that no referee is ever going to consider that a DOGSO.

Assuming that he even thinks it’s enough for a foul at all obviously, which this one didn’t.