Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

Gray said:
Taylor most definitely is local. He attended Altrincham Boys Grammar School and his birth place is Wythenshawe (probably the hospital maternity wing).

He should not be refereeing City or Rag matches which is another inditement of the useless twats at PGMOL.

He completely lost it after the Rodri red card and was running around like a headless chicken missing all-sorts of shenanigans by Forest.

As a Club we are far too placid about demanding that certain referees do not get appointed to officiate at our matches.
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He’s from Wythy & went to Alty Grammar as many kids go to school out of district.

As an old Alty boy I’ve met very few who aren’t City or Rags. I’ve never met an Alty fan from Wythy but I knew a few Wythy lads who went to school in Alty.
 
Stephen230 said:
I’m afraid your info about him being from Wythenshawe is also wrong. Despite what Wikipedia says. He’s from
Altrincham.
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He is from Wythenshawe. He did go to Altrincham Grammar School though and was in my mate’s class there. Taylor was an Altrincham fan as a kid.

My mate used to play for Altrincham and Taylor always used to speak to him when he saw him out and about, always interested in Alty.

He lives in Altrincham now.
 
I don’t think Taylor was even that bad yesterday. Our fanbase have just got a bee in our bonnet about him.

Apart from Foden being fouled right at the start which Taylor should have booked their lad for and a foul on Grealish he waved play-on from… there was nothing else he got wrong really.

It was definitely a red card for Rodri. Gibbs White did fling himself over for no reason, but Rodri still put his hands around his neck… you just can’t do that.

At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.
 
BamberBridgeBlue said:
Let me get this straight. You’re expecting some sort of official statement from Howard Webb or Alison Britton along the lines of “We believe that a successful Manchester United and Liverpool contributes to the appeal of The Premier League, globally. The dominance of Manchester City, we believe, threatens the fabric of our game and the significant American investment in traditionally successful clubs. Therefore we have been trying to stack the deck by announcing various investigations and charges before big games and being creative in our match officiating.”

Do you recall Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini? Football is a multi billion pound international industry and if you think there’s no corruption then I would like to book a two week holiday in your head as it sounds fucking lovely in there.
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Of course I'm not but then we don't only convict criminals when they visit the local nick and hand themselves in!
Of course there is corruption but what we are discussing here is that referees are unequivocally told that may must give biased decisions against City that change the outcomes of games.
I keep making this point and it's continually ignored, visit any other fans forum and you will find a percentage of their fanbase who are convinced that corruption exists but is against their team. Liverpool, United even the "small" clubs who constantly claim that referees are ordered to give poor decisions against them to protect "big" clubs.
You can't all be right?
 
When your whole family support the scum of course you going to have that inbuilt bias! The pen he gave at arsenal was a pen you never ever see given! So tells me he was looking for anything to give one! Like fouls his inbuilt bias will give more fouls against us! Man City could make a portfolio of bias decisions inconsistencies from him..
 
Regardless of where he's from; his aim was to reduce the, perceived gap, between the two teams.
1) City's fouls were punished with instant cards and/or free kicks.
2) He appeared more lenient towards Forest.

Foden was consistently pulled as he moved away from a defender yet nothing given, either at the time or retrospectively.

WHY did he not book their player in the first minute for stopping Haaland????
Yet that allows the player another one!
Could you imagine in cricket ball smashing in to the pads first up and the umpire saying not out cos it'll ruin the game?
Wouldn't happen.

Taylor showed his inconsistency last year at Liverpool.
Let everything go. And it made a great game.
However, when Haaland was involved in 50/50 in the build up to a 'goal', he let the VAR tell him it was a foul.
The sort of foul he'd let go all game.
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
Regardless of where he's from; his aim was to reduce the, perceived gap, between the two teams.
1) City's fouls were punished with instant cards and/or free kicks.
2) He appeared more lenient towards Forest.

Foden was consistently pulled as he moved away from a defender yet nothing given, either at the time or retrospectively.

WHY did he not book their player in the first minute for stopping Haaland????
Yet that allows the player another one!
Could you imagine in cricket ball smashing in to the pads first up and the umpire saying not out cos it'll ruin the game?
Wouldn't happen.

Taylor showed his inconsistency last year at Liverpool.
Let everything go. And it made a great game.
However, when Haaland was involved in 50/50 in the build up to a 'goal', he let the VAR tell him it was a foul.
The sort of foul he'd let go all game.
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Our fouls weren’t punished with instant cards.

We got four yellow cards yesterday. Two were for our players squaring up head-to-head with theirs (Ederson and Grealish) and another was for Pep going mad at the fourth official.

Only one of our fouls we gave away received a yellow card and that was Akanji’s that I thought was a booking.

There were a number of things he didn’t blow fouls for pulling back yesterday that think is a good way to ref. We’re on the attack, why stop play? But he should be pulling the captain over and saying ‘I’ll play on but I’ll get the yellow card out for the next one after the phase of play. You need to tell your players to stop pulling them back’.

It was poor that he didn’t do that. But he did book 7 of their players.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.
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I think the outrage was because it looked identical to the double challenge on Rodri which went unpenalised and led to the red card
 
halfcenturyup said:
What I don't understand is why he would "apply a higher bar" in this game. It's pretty obvious that one of the teams will rely on possession and sophisticated tactics, ane one on physicality because they are less skilled. May sound patronising but it's the truth. So the physical team gains an advantage at the expense of the more skilled team. What does the referee expect to happen?

Ignoring the questions of consistency, I can see why it may happen with two "evenly matched" teams, City and Arsenal say, or City and Liverpool (as long as VAR is on the same page), but City and Forest, what is the thought process there?
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I said in the Title Race thread a while ago that our biggest threat would be this higher bar nonsense. I was expecting it to result in more injuries due to our higher possession stats. We're obviously going to be fouled more than most other teams just because of that. Not to mention that the recorded stats are just for the fouls that are actually awarded and not where the ref either ignores blatant fouls or just plays advantage (even if there isn't any at times). Wasn't expecting our players to get wound up enough to respond like Rodri did yesterday but it's definitely a factor.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I don’t think Taylor was even that bad yesterday. Our fanbase have just got a bee in our bonnet about him.

Apart from Foden being fouled right at the start which Taylor should have booked their lad for and a foul on Grealish he waved play-on from… there was nothing else he got wrong really.

It was definitely a red card for Rodri. Gibbs White did fling himself over for no reason, but Rodri still put his hands around his neck… you just can’t do that.

At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.
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He was his usual self when he refs us there are numerous examples of his bias against City alluded to above
Pep was fuming internally at the press conference about him but , obviously had to be careful what he said Taylor was inconsistent with the way he officiated both teams, there were numerous fouls against City when he waved play-on leaving the City player exasperated as to why, yet virtually ever time he gave them a foul. If you cant see the bias in his officiating then so be it
Not saying it wasn't a red but, Rodri didnt put his hands "around" his neck he placed his hands very briefly either side and certainly no where near sufficient to warrant the reaction from Gibb-Shite who, should have had a yellow for simulation and thus a second red. Have a closer look and you will also see Phil have a cheeky dig
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.
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It looked more like shoulder to shoulder to me, so it doesn't make us look daft, as it clearly wasn't a foul...
 
Norbiton said:
It was at the far end of the ground from me, and I haven’t seen a replay- but the in-play Guardian and BBC reports both said it wasn’t even a foul
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It wasn’t a foul. If that had been the rags at old trafford Taylor would’ve waved play on
 
Gordyola said:
He was his usual self when he refs us there are numerous examples of his bias against City alluded to above
Pep was fuming internally at the press conference about him but , obviously had to be careful what he said Taylor was inconsistent with the way he officiated both teams, there were numerous fouls against City when he waved play-on leaving the City player exasperated as to why, yet virtually ever time he gave them a foul. If you cant see the bias in his officiating then so be it
Not saying it wasn't a red but, Rodri didnt put his hands "around" his neck he placed his hands very briefly either side and certainly no where near sufficient to warrant the reaction from Gibb-Shite who, should have had a yellow for simulation and thus a second red. Have a closer look and you will also see Phil have a cheeky dig
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I spotted Phil's dig too and I think Gibbs-Shite caught him on the chest. As Phil turns away as he puts his hand against his chest as if reacting to being struck as he walks away.
He dodged Lineker when asked in the post match interview by saying he hadn't seen it back.
That odious turd Gibbs-Shite is godfather to Phil's son and I'm sure something was said to make Rodri react and Phil knows this but it's pure speculation on my part and i doubt we'll ever know for sure.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I don’t think Taylor was even that bad yesterday. Our fanbase have just got a bee in our bonnet about him.

Apart from Foden being fouled right at the start which Taylor should have booked their lad for and a foul on Grealish he waved play-on from… there was nothing else he got wrong really.

It was definitely a red card for Rodri. Gibbs White did fling himself over for no reason, but Rodri still put his hands around his neck… you just can’t do that.

At one point Phillips barged into the back of one of their players which was a blatant foul and the crowd started chanting ‘you’re not fit to referee’… makes us look daft that, it was clearly a foul.
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The barge in the back was exactly what Gibbs White did to Rodri - twice - immediately before the red card incident. If Taylor had blown his whistle the first time - as he later did for their Philips foul - the red card incident doesn’t happen.

When something is an obvious foul for the team in red but is ‘play on’ for the team in blue that is either incompetent or dishonest, and Taylor is reckoned to be one of the best referees in Europe.

Go figure.
 
homerdog said:
It looked more like shoulder to shoulder to me, so it doesn't make us look daft, as it clearly wasn't a foul...
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It was shoulder-to-back from behind. Their lad was facing the stand.

You have to both be running side-by-side in the same direction the ball is travelling and hit shoulder-to-shoulder for it to be a legal shoulder charge.
 
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