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[Sir peace frog]

I dont want to really keep explaining about Shielding and Playing Distance, but the interpretation last evening was based on Law 12.

that has nothing to do with what happened last night, if you think shielding means sticking a leg between kevs legs(he actually get kevs standing foot)

shielding means getting the body in front of the ball,partey didn't he basically stopped kev kicking the ball

 

[East Level 2]

The problem is that KDB has many superpowers including seeing into the future.
He knew Partey was going to be an arse all night long so kicked him early doors. - I think that's how the VAR clowns saw it.

 

[tregyblue61]

I've just watched the non-pen on KDB.

It's a penalty. Partey clearly lunges at Kev and not the ball. He's not shielding the ball. Steps over the ball and into Kev' legs. He played KDB, not the ball.

Penalty. Penalty. Penalty.

 

[mattcity5]

I dont want to really keep explaining about Shielding and Playing Distance, but the interpretation last evening was based on Law 12.

I get this and thought this myself at first. However watching it again it looks like Partey goes into Kev's standing leg before Kev makes contact with Partey.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Also he didn't get to the so-called playing distance first. Look again KDB has his right leg their first and Partey then lunges in.

Exactly. Kev's already locked and loaded. It's his ball to play. He's the only one interested in the ball. Partey makes no attempt to play it. Anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick and a yellow, if it's breaking up an attack.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Exactly. Kev's already locked and loaded. It's his ball to play. He's the only one interested in the ball. Partey makes no attempt to play it. Anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick and a yellow, if it's breaking up an attack.

Yeah but it was too early to give, it would’ve been unfair to Arsenal…

 

[Bluearmy]

Because Partey got to the playing distance first! It's as simple as that. However obstructive it may look, and as much of a foul it may instinctively feel, the Laws and their interpretation mean that Partey can legally occupy that space immediately in front of the ball before KDB arrives milliseconds later. If the ball was not so close to Partey's foot when he plants it down then I agree it's a penalty. However based on the TV angle from behind the keeper, you can see why VAR agreed with Oliver.

Remember, the laws are not foolproof as Rashford proved at the Swamp, and sadly can be very subjective in their interpretation!

He kicked kdb you fool

 

[richardtheref]

Oliver for the final

Can't as he has already reffed an FA Cup final

It is a nailed on penalty.

Any of our players doing what Partey did to one of theirs anywhere on pitch would be given as foul (as it should).

That is running in, perpendicular to the attacking players movement, to block their leg to prevent a run/shot, with no intention to play the ball (only Ramsdale and Kev were even in a position to do that), which is always a foul.

He actually takes Kev out at the legs and people are arguing that Kev fouled Partey.

It’s laughable.

And yet you ues replays that show Kev kicks him. Partey is merely defending, the only time he did last night

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

He kicked kdb you fool

Only because Kev's foot was in his space. He didn't mean to.

 

[richardtheref]

"Not enough in that" I kept hearing the female commentator on BT saying and pretty sure have heard her saying it many times before in matches where decisions have not went city's way. Must be her go to phrase for glossing over city injustices.

Regards the penalty shout, Partey clearly isn't playing the ball but is he allowed shield it for the keeper? To me though, he lunges towards KDB so I'm inclined to think excessive and therefore penalty.

I thought Oliver was very one sided. Amazing to think Arsenal had only 1 booking and this for when Partey lost his rag with Grealish

As you say in this instance he is allowed to shield the ball. No different to the player who shields the ball out of play without attempting to actually play the ball