Ref Watch

I think the basic problem with Oliver is that he lacks the balls to make big decisions. I remember the 2016 League Cup Final v Dippers when he denied us a blatant penalty for a foul on Sterling. On Weds he chose to not give us a stonewall penalty and he chose not to show an obvious second yellow to Partey, fact. The implication is that by not wanting to make the correct decision, he is in fact, not doing his job correctly. In my opinion he lacks honesty, which is another way of saying he is corrupt - there I said it : ).
Just hope we do not get him, Taylor or Attwell for the final as we have seen how the Rags are officiated.
Last 2 Cup Final Wins they had the offside goal allowed v Newcastle and when Southampton were fucked over in their 3-2 defeat inc a goal wrongly ruled out for offside when 0-0
 
Over the last 5 PL seasons (including this one) we've been awarded 41 penalties and conceded 23.

So we get given 1.8 penalties for every 1 against.

During the same period we've scored 461 goals and conceded 145. A ratio of 3.2 : 1

How is it possible for a side to be so dominant in terms of goals but nowhere near that when it comes to penalties? Over a 5 year time period, this HAS to be bias.

It's actually worse when you consider that the goals conceded total includes goals from all those penalties against us which by this argument shouldn't have been awarded.

To put it another way: if we were awarded penalties at the same ratio as our goalscoring, we'd get around 15 every season. Just in the PL.
I guess you would have to compare those stats with those of other clubs such as Liverpool and utd to see if there was any bias?
 
I can see both sides of the argument of the Partey challenge on Kev, and the debate suggests it can't be a clear and obvious error, so perhaps not one for VAR.

It does show why the discussion between the referee and VAR needs to be available to broadcasters though, as if we could hear Oliver say I think Partey gets his leg between Kev and the ball and then Kev kicks him, you'd expect VAR to agree and not therefore send him to have a look. As it is, we've no idea what's being discussed, even the players can't get the VAR reasoning, which at a minimum leaves it open to abuse and corruption. Although they're probably concerned you'd have heard Oliver shouting "C'mon Arsenal"

Some people clearly believe all sorts of people are whispering in the refs ear but IF you believe what they say the protocol is, then there’s no discussion between referees and VARs before he makes a live decision.

The VAR doesn’t have a ongoing live communication with the onfiejd officials. He can hear everything they are saying to each other. But needs to press a button to get involved. In a case like this he decided there was no obvious error ( even if he personally thought it was a probably a penalty ) so they’re would have been no communication between the two.
 
Just hope we do not get him, Taylor or Attwell for the final as we have seen how the Rags are officiated.
Last 2 Cup Final Wins they had the offside goal allowed v Newcastle and when Southampton were fucked over in their 3-2 defeat inc a goal wrongly ruled out for offside when 0-0

Oliver or Taylor won’t be doing the cup final. They’ve both already done two.
 
I honestly think Oliver got that call right. Kev actually kicked Partey. I think a few on here need to remove their blinkers.

No. We should go by the official rules not arbitrary and random ones.
KDB was trying to play the ball. To kick the ball. To shot. And he did that with the obvious way a human player does. No careless play whatsoever.
Partey on the other hand he did NOT tried to play the ball but he carelessly put his foot between KDB foot and the ball. This is careless play and so it's a foul. And so a penalty.
Easy things....
 
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It's not a penalty as Partey is within playing distance of the ball and is therefore able to use his body or legs as a shield.

This(the "legs" part) is an absolutely HUGE misunderstanding of the rules.
You CANNOT do that. I repeat: You CANNOT do that!
You cannot just throw a leg between the ball and someone that tries to kick it.
Rules are clear. Unless you show me somewhere this thing on the official rules. But just do not try to find it as it doesn't exist. I know them all(as also the official guidelines of officiating which are some 7 GB of material) and there is no such rule.
 
In hindsight Arse supporters are saying Oliver favoured us but I’ve just read the match thread on Arse Mania and they are clearly grateful for the decisions going their way.

Make of that what you will
Yep - I read that and there is a consistent view from them that the ref gave them everything
 
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Over the last 5 PL seasons (including this one) we've been awarded 41 penalties and conceded 23.

So we get given 1.8 penalties for every 1 against.

During the same period we've scored 461 goals and conceded 145. A ratio of 3.2 : 1

How is it possible for a side to be so dominant in terms of goals but nowhere near that when it comes to penalties? Over a 5 year time period, this HAS to be bias.

It's actually worse when you consider that the goals conceded total includes goals from all those penalties against us which by this argument shouldn't have been awarded.

To put it another way: if we were awarded penalties at the same ratio as our goalscoring, we'd get around 15 every season. Just in the PL.
Crunch some numbers around time in the penalty box and possession percentage figure ratios Carol.
 

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