Ref Watch

One thing I was screaming at the ref about was their player using the towel to dry the ball before a throw in, I was certain it had been stopped and was in the new rules brought out this season.
It has been stopped, but only in the EFL not the premiership, again different rules for the same game, so in the league cup you can’t but the fa cup you can along with the premiership, no wonder managers and players lose the plot.
 
We have had worse referees although we should have had a second penalty. If we had dropped points we couldn't have blamed the officials for that.
 
One for the referees out there to explain ( I've not seen it mentioned so far )
Looking back at Attwell's performance of yesterday. He awards the Rags their usual penalty for yet another of St Marcus's ridiculous dives. He sends a Forest player off notwithstanding the through-ball was clearly on its way into the goalkeeper's arms ( and there was a covering defender in place - just in case ). But the Rags' second goal perplexes me.
RatFace Fernandes sits down and is promptly awarded a free kick.
Rather than hoof the free kick into the area, Fernandes passes the ball sideways to a an unmarked rag outside the area.
The Penalty Area empties as Forest "push up", but leaving Casemiro prostrate on the ground in the 6-yard box.
The ball is then passed to the right wing ( Casemiro still clearly in an offside position -but arguably not interfering with play < yes, yes - I know we're dealing with Attwell here > )
The ball is crossed into the 6 yard box - and a recovering Casemiro traps the ball and puts it into the net. He was on-side when the cross is made but shouldn't he have been deemed offside because of his being offside at the start of the move ?
We regularly see a player "offside" at the start of a move ( but the ball is not played to him and therefore not active ) The game continues and the player - previously offside gets back onside - the ball is then played to him - the flag then goes up and referee gestures with his arms that a "cross-over" has taken place. The player is deemed to be offside because by touching the ball he has become active. What's the difference between those situations and Casemiro's
yesterday ?
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Thought he was good today.

I like a physical game and we are arguably usually the most physical team in the league. Håland usually bullies his opponents but today was combatted.

We could have had a penalty for one of them but I thought by the LOTG the penalty we did get was extremely harsh so that evened out.

Other than that, he was good. Booked their lad for a poor tackle on Grealish and didn’t do anything controversial. He was mostly in our favour really.

I bet a read on the SheffUtd forums would be very critical of him.
 
One for the referees out there to explain ( I've not seen it mentioned so far )
Looking back at Attwell's performance of yesterday. He awards the Rags their usual penalty for yet another of St Marcus's ridiculous dives. He sends a Forest player off notwithstanding the through-ball was clearly on its way into the goalkeeper's arms ( and there was a covering defender in place - just in case ). But the Rags' second goal perplexes me.
RatFace Fernandes sits down and is promptly awarded a free kick.
Rather than hoof the free kick into the area, Fernandes passes the ball sideways to a an unmarked rag outside the area.
The Penalty Area empties as Forest "push up", but leaving Casemiro prostrate on the ground in the 6-yard box.
The ball is then passed to the right wing ( Casemiro still clearly in an offside position -but arguably not interfering with play < yes, yes - I know we're dealing with Attwell here > )
The ball is crossed into the 6 yard box - and a recovering Casemiro traps the ball and puts it into the net. He was on-side when the cross is made but shouldn't he have been deemed offside because of his being offside at the start of the move ?
We regularly see a player "offside" at the start of a move ( but the ball is not played to him and therefore not active ) The game continues and the player - previously offside gets back onside - the ball is then played to him - the flag then goes up and referee gestures with his arms that a "cross-over" has taken place. The player is deemed to be offside because by touching the ball he has become active. What's the difference between those situations and Casemiro's
yesterday ?
Not sure there was much wrong with that goal, to be honest. When Captain Birdseye plays the ball into the box, the Forest LB is very deep, and may well have played the utd players onside.
 
Sad no one in the media has the balls to question Atwell or Webb. The dodgy decisions will roll on.

The media are largely all feasting at the pig trough - why would they question anything. They don’t stay silent they legitimise and actively paper over the corruption. They are a key component of the corruption.
 
Nottingham Forest are considering whether to lodge an official complaint with the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) over the performance of the refereeing team

Forest boss Steve Cooper said he needed to "bite his tongue" over what he really felt about referee Stuart Attwell and his colleagues.

However, it is understood Forest officials left Old Trafford seething over various decisions they felt were pivotal in deciding the game's outcome.

After Saturday's game, which Forest led 2-0 after four minutes, Cooper said: "In games like this you need things to be how they should. I am not going to talk too much as I don't want to get into trouble but I was surprised how quickly the decisions were made.

I hope they do, managers and clubs inc us have to start calling it out more and getting it into the public domain. It’s got worse since Webb took over and Attwell should not officiate another Rag game

Look at the BBC today… numerous articles all praising the Rags comeback… not a sentence about the potentially off-side goal, the dodgy sending off or the blatant dive for a penalty.
 

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