Ref Watch

34yearsandstillgoingstrong said:
One for the referees out there to explain ( I've not seen it mentioned so far )
Looking back at Attwell's performance of yesterday. He awards the Rags their usual penalty for yet another of St Marcus's ridiculous dives. He sends a Forest player off notwithstanding the through-ball was clearly on its way into the goalkeeper's arms ( and there was a covering defender in place - just in case ). But the Rags' second goal perplexes me.
RatFace Fernandes sits down and is promptly awarded a free kick.
Rather than hoof the free kick into the area, Fernandes passes the ball sideways to a an unmarked rag outside the area.
The Penalty Area empties as Forest "push up", but leaving Casemiro prostrate on the ground in the 6-yard box.
The ball is then passed to the right wing ( Casemiro still clearly in an offside position -but arguably not interfering with play < yes, yes - I know we're dealing with Attwell here > )
The ball is crossed into the 6 yard box - and a recovering Casemiro traps the ball and puts it into the net. He was on-side when the cross is made but shouldn't he have been deemed offside because of his being offside at the start of the move ?
We regularly see a player "offside" at the start of a move ( but the ball is not played to him and therefore not active ) The game continues and the player - previously offside gets back onside - the ball is then played to him - the flag then goes up and referee gestures with his arms that a "cross-over" has taken place. The player is deemed to be offside because by touching the ball he has become active. What's the difference between those situations and Casemiro's
yesterday ?
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I think you're getting mixed up with a player being offside when the ball is played forward to them, but because they're running towards their own goal, they're onside when they receive it. Those are the ones the ref gestures as offside/crossover.

Casemiro was onside.
 
hertsblue said:
Nottingham Forest are considering whether to lodge an official complaint with the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) over the performance of the refereeing team

Forest boss Steve Cooper said he needed to "bite his tongue" over what he really felt about referee Stuart Attwell and his colleagues.

However, it is understood Forest officials left Old Trafford seething over various decisions they felt were pivotal in deciding the game's outcome.

After Saturday's game, which Forest led 2-0 after four minutes, Cooper said: "In games like this you need things to be how they should. I am not going to talk too much as I don't want to get into trouble but I was surprised how quickly the decisions were made.

I hope they do, managers and clubs inc us have to start calling it out more and getting it into the public domain. It’s got worse since Webb took over and Attwell should not officiate another Rag game
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Why do they bite their tongues and try to not get into trouble though?

That’s enabling them!
 
I remember thinking about half way through the first half that he was being particularly fair - definitely way up there IMO. Although, that probably speaks to the many refs that are clearly bent as fuck

Should have booked a SU player or 2 earlier though - just encouraged them the get ever more 'physical'
 
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