Ref Watch

Fatty 4th official for both games.

We'd better up our buffet game so he's too bloated to do anything Sunday.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Mike dean was excellent in playing advantage for the mahrez goal

KDB was fouled 2/3 times in his run
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I was concerned about how easy he gave Brighton so many free kicks. We had the ball 65% of the game yet we "committed" 65% of the fouls. It's a theme that has run through the season.
 
Blue Mist said:
I am a regular to this thread and will slag off the idiots for fun, but....... I have to say Dean was very good yesterday. I was moaning about how many times we were fouled but he played the advantage, which wasn't one. Fortunately he yet again played the advantage on Kevs run towards goal for the first. Well done Dean, overall a good performance.
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I thought at first he’d ruled out the goal having already blown for the fouls. Purely because de Bruyne seemed to be having an argument with him. Perhaps he was just asking for a card
 
He made some odd decisions, a few times neither he nor the liner knew which way to give a throw in and it was for whoever shouted the loudest. At one stage Pep was giving the ball to them for a throw in which it was and he gave it to us. Gave a corner to them when it was either a goal kick to us or a foul to them but never a corner. Everytime the ball went near them they fell over and don't get me started on the keeper taking half a minute over goal kicks from the start. And obviously the six second law still doesn't apply to visiting keepers and neither does take the throw where the ball goes out of play. Should be renamed the 15 - 20 second law and take the throw at least 10 yards further forward from where you should.
 
Last night highlighted an issue that I have noticed this season. The referees are now told to allow the game to flow and not to stop the game. Last night there were quite a few occasions where there were fouls against us but Dean waived play on even though we had a player down or it would have been in a promising position. The opposite happened when they had the ball, play was stopped and they were given the free kick. I guess this answers the question on why we are seen to commit more fouls than the opposition.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Last night highlighted an issue that I have noticed this season. The referees are now told to allow the game to flow and not to stop the game. Last night there were quite a few occasions where there were fouls against us but Dean waived play on even though we had a player down or it would have been in a promising position. The opposite happened when they had the ball, play was stopped and they were given the free kick. I guess this answers the question on why we are seen to commit more fouls than the opposition.
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I guess it comes down in part to whether the foul stops the attack. Some teams - Utd in matches earlier in the season - will hit the ground as soon as they are touched, so play stops and the foul count goes up.

City will often keep the ball even if someone is fouled, and may still back themselves; advantage means there is nothing on the foul count too.

Dean has often played advantage in his career - have you seen the unfortunately timed celebration of his advantage decision vs Spurs?



Advice in the IFAB guidelines is this:
The referee may play advantage whenever an offence occurs but should consider the following in deciding whether to apply the advantage or stop play:
  • the severity of the offence – if the offence warrants a sending-off, the referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a clear opportunity to score a goal
  • the position where the offence was committed - the closer to the opponent’s goal, the more effective the advantage can be
  • the chances of an immediate, promising attack
  • the atmosphere of the match
 
berryblue said:
I was concerned about how easy he gave Brighton so many free kicks. We had the ball 65% of the game yet we "committed" 65% of the fouls. It's a theme that has run through the season.
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Im no fan of mike dean and where as he might not have got it 100% right last night i also dont recall any thing that particularly pissed me off.

was actually hoping hed celebrate when mahrez scored as he has in the past when his advantages have come off
 
cibaman said:
I thought at first he’d ruled out the goal having already blown for the fouls. Purely because de Bruyne seemed to be having an argument with him. Perhaps he was just asking for a card
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I too wondered if it was being var'd or there was a problem but I presume it was R Kev moaning like fuck about the fouls and Dean, rather bemused saying hang on, I played advantage and you scored.
 
I thought a couple of years ago the protocol was changed,so that if a player was injured in a yellow/ red card challenge they would not have to leave the field of play,if they didn't want to,even if they had received treatment.
Nobody seems to apply this.Did I dream it?
 


There was the classic miking up of Harrow schoolmaster David Elleray for a Millwall v Arsenal game.
Tony Adams told where to go... and a nice half-time cuppa
 
The utterly random nature of added on time is one of my bugbears. 2nd half today there were two goals, 6 subs and the pen VAR farce took 3 mins yet they only added on 3 mins.

It was just as important today as it would be if we need an injury time goal against Villa to win the league on goal difference. There should be more accountability.
 
Not so much the ref but why the 3 minutes for a var check today ? No one complained about the award so whatcwere they looking at?
After the penalty thecrefvthen spent 2 minutes talking to the 4th official and the Watford manager, why ?
 
Blue Mist said:
Not so much the ref but why the 3 minutes for a var check today ? No one complained about the award so whatcwere they looking at?
After the penalty thecrefvthen spent 2 minutes talking to the 4th official and the Watford manager, why ?
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According to the mcfc commentary, the ref couldn’t hear the VAR team. The commentates could but the ref couldn’t.
 
mat said:
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Plus: Watch as WSL referee Emily Heaslip wears a microphone during the recent Chelsea vs Reading fixture, giving a unique insight into how an officiating teams communicate
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Sky Mic up ref in women's game.

Shame they don't seem so arsed to do it for a PL match.
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There should be no variation in one game to the next. If a ref has a mic in one game then all the games should be the same!
 
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dark 'n stormy said:
According to the mcfc commentary, the ref couldn’t hear the VAR team. The commentates could but the ref couldn’t.
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Bizarrely the ref apparently couldn't find the button that stopped his watch.

The penalty was awarded 14 seconds in, and they were still on the touch line after the 50 minute mark. Five different stoppages for subs, and yet we still got the regulation 3 minutes added time.
 
Dr Quincy said:
The utterly random nature of added on time is one of my bugbears. 2nd half today there were two goals, 6 subs and the pen VAR farce took 3 mins yet they only added on 3 mins.

It was just as important today as it would be if we need an injury time goal against Villa to win the league on goal difference. There should be more accountability.
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Normalise bullshit decisions and nobody will notice.

Why always us?
 
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