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Oliver at centre for spurs with tierney on VAR........WTF
It was good to see Oliver referred to the VAR review screen at the weekend, then stick to his original decision. He is senior enough, and has plenty of experience to do that though. These new referees perhaps won't have the confidence to maintain their decisions when referred to the screen by the likes of Mason and Dean.

Oliver is a good referee. I'm not keen on Tierney though. Rumoured to be a United fan, and lives in Wigan.
 
Not sure we’re quite on the same page here. I’m talking about if a goalkeeper is taking his time restarting play ( usually a goal kick ) he can be booked for time wasting but not concede a free kick, as the ball isn’t in play.

Same as if a defender lamps a forward at a corner. He’ll be sent off either way. But if the corner hasn’t yet been taken, that will remain the restart. Whereas if the corner was already on its way over before the offence has been committed, play would be restarted with a penalty.
It's me! I'm confusing timewasting over a goal kick 'n hanging on to the ball! Of course, the ball isn't in play until the timewasting bastard has kicked it! Should be a mandatory booking for the first time and the goal kick reverts to being a corner. I should be on the IFAB!
 
Guys the 6 second rule went about 10 years ago. They just have to release the ball "in a reasonable time".

Nobody has told the FA it’s gone.

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Oliver at centre for spurs with tierney on VAR........WTF
I was expecting Alti Fan and Darren Dipper England if I'm honest.

Still another pair of cunts were going to have to score 3 legitimate goals to win.
 
Like to see the six second rule enforced and while we're at it get shot of offside rule altogether, should open the game up a bit.
I absolutely hate the game stopping a yard from the halfway line for offside, supposed to be an entertainment game.
Seen a statistic that in The Livarpool v Neverton that the ball was in play for 49 minutes. 49 out 0f 90 who gets there money back?
 
Guys the 6 second rule went about 10 years ago. They just have to release the ball "in a reasonable time".

The thing that gets me is that the Villa keeper actually left his box at least 3 times when clearing the ball and no one seemed to notice it at all.
I also noticed how far out of his area he was carrying it before kicking it, a bit like the free kicks around the six yard line miraculously ended up outside the area.
I did notice him before the second half started having a word with the ball boys telling them to delay retrieving the ball
 
Guys the 6 second rule went about 10 years ago. They just have to release the ball "in a reasonable time".

The thing that gets me is that the Villa keeper actually left his box at least 3 times when clearing the ball and no one seemed to notice it at all.
Seem to remember years ago a Linesman actually called a keeper out for handball at a kick from his hands, pretty sure it was the dips keeper at Bolton and blow me replays showed he was actually inside and the liner was given lots grief on motd. Maybe that's why it's never called now?
 
Seem to remember years ago a Linesman actually called a keeper out for handball at a kick from his hands, pretty sure it was the dips keeper at Bolton and blow me replays showed he was actually inside and the liner was given lots grief on motd. Maybe that's why it's never called now?

The linesman’s correct position would be up level with the last defender, so he wouldn’t normally be in a position to call it, if they’ve all pushed up for a long punt. And it’s not something VAR could get involved in.

What has happened if the officials suspect he’s pushing it is the liner will drop back for one. Obviously the ‘keeper unless he’s completely stupid, will notice that and make sure he’s ok for that one. But it would probably put it in his head that they’re on to him and make him more careful from then on.
 
Guys the 6 second rule went about 10 years ago. They just have to release the ball "in a reasonable time".

The thing that gets me is that the Villa keeper actually left his box at least 3 times when clearing the ball and no one seemed to notice it at all.
I've been banging on about this for years. Many goalkeepers are out of the penalty box when they release the ball. However the linesmen are up near the halfway lines looking for offsides. The Villa goalkeeper was particularly good at this tactic. In all honestly if this had been noticed by the officials then we would have had at least 3 free kicks on the edge of the box. (Not that they would have resulted in anything!!).
 
The linesman’s correct position would be up level with the last defender, so he wouldn’t normally be in a position to call it, if they’ve all pushed up for a long punt. And it’s not something VAR could get involved in.

What has happened if the officials suspect he’s pushing it is the liner will drop back for one. Obviously the ‘keeper unless he’s completely stupid, will notice that and make sure he’s ok for that one. But it would probably put it in his head that they’re on to him and make him more careful from then on.
When I was a linesman / assistant referee, one of my responsibilities was to check for handball from a goalkeeper's kick from his or her hands. We would position ourselves on the 18 yard line, then sprint to the defensive line after the kick. This practice is almost redundant today, largely due to Pep.
 
Guys the 6 second rule went about 10 years ago. They just have to release the ball "in a reasonable time".

The thing that gets me is that the Villa keeper actually left his box at least 3 times when clearing the ball and no one seemed to notice it at all.
I was on the front row in the second tier and it was so, so obvious. The linesman, sorry, assistant referee, down below us was shocking on Saturday.
 
Guys the 6 second rule went about 10 years ago. They just have to release the ball "in a reasonable time".

The thing that gets me is that the Villa keeper actually left his box at least 3 times when clearing the ball and no one seemed to notice it at all.

No mate I noticed it.

We were sat along the 18 yd line in second half, and as you say I counted three times.
The issue is Premier league rules seem different as it happens often and is never penalised.
In the same way as Premier league players encroach the field of play before they release a throw in and it is never an offence.
Players can take free kicks over 10 yds from where an offence occurs.

But worse I think is that referees cannot count to ten when setting up a distance for free kicks. 9 small steps do not equal 10 yes.
 
Guys the 6 second rule went about 10 years ago. They just have to release the ball "in a reasonable time".

The thing that gets me is that the Villa keeper actually left his box at least 3 times when clearing the ball and no one seemed to notice it at all.

He was outside his box on almost every long clearance and it happened in the lead up to their goal. Would have been some fun if VAR had checked that.
 
Gallagher on ref watch for the disallowed Newcastle goal said var must have been concentrating on the palace player making contact with the goalie, the push was about 0.1 of a second before it!!!!
 
When I was a linesman / assistant referee, one of my responsibilities was to check for handball from a goalkeeper's kick from his or her hands. We would position ourselves on the 18 yard line, then sprint to the defensive line after the kick. This practice is almost redundant today, largely due to Pep.
Yes I actually remember them doing that and like you say not seen it in a long time, not seen them racing towards the half way line with their flag up after a goal in a while either (although can’t say I’ve been looking at them too often, so maybe they do ?)
 

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