Dave Ewing's Back 'eader
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It was obvious from Bernie's reaction that he knew he had been tripped and the fuckin' useless whistling wanker was gonna play on!
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Blue Theatre
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Isn't a big part of the problem that there isn't really a definition of what is or isn't a penalty ? Well, it's supposed to be something you'd have got a (direct) free kick for outside the box, but we know it isn't applied like that or there'd be 2 or 3 penalties every game.
But because it has to be more significant than a foul anywhere else on the pitch, no one can agree how much more. So 10 "experts" can watch an incident a dozen times in slow motion from every angle ... and still 5 will say " clear penalty" and 5 say "well, he did catch him but there's not enough contact for me / he was looking for it / he went down too easily / etc".
Once you say that, then VAR also becomes subjective ?
But because it has to be more significant than a foul anywhere else on the pitch, no one can agree how much more. So 10 "experts" can watch an incident a dozen times in slow motion from every angle ... and still 5 will say " clear penalty" and 5 say "well, he did catch him but there's not enough contact for me / he was looking for it / he went down too easily / etc".
Once you say that, then VAR also becomes subjective ?
Trevor Morley's Tache
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You have empirical evidence of this? Because other than "because we say it's true" I've seen nothing to support this assertion.Fine but its true
It was obvious from Bernie's reaction that he knew he had been tripped and the fuckin' useless whistling wanker was gonna play on!
Yes I'm right behind that goal and we all saw it was a clear penalty. The same with the Haaland one. When you watch it live you see the speed and momentum and how the fouled players body alters by the contact.
Alan Harper's Tash
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We were told at the start that they couldn’t hear the commentary. They haven’t informed us of a change, so unless you have any evidence to suggest they can hear the commentary, all you have is your bias.You have empirical evidence of this? Because other than "because we say it's true" I've seen nothing to support this assertion.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Told by who?We were told at the start that they couldn’t hear the commentary. They haven’t informed us of a change, so unless you have any evidence to suggest they can hear the commentary, all you have is your bias.
We have ZERO evidence EITHER way. What we do have though are countless examples of the actions of VAR officials mirroring the match commentary, even for contentious decisions.
Alan Harper's Tash
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When it first came out.Told by who?
We have ZERO evidence EITHER way. What we do have though are countless examples of the actions of VAR officials mirroring the match commentary, even for contentious decisions.
I can’t be arsed debating with you though as you don’t believe anything anyone says unless it keeps your perpetual agenda in motion.
Literally nothing will ever change your mind on refereeing, so it’s utterly pointless debating with you or any of your fellow corruption conspiracy nonsense.
Have a good day,
pride in battle
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I don't think it was a penalty either, but the Haaland one was, just shit reffing mateWe were given a penalty that wasn’t a penalty for me yesterday. Bernardo was the one who kicked the defender more than anything and his lighter weight seemed to jolt over from the transfer of weight back up his body.
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Well I'd say not giving us clear penalty, before we scored our first. Both commentator and sidekick were baffled that we didn't get one.
Then the farce of not getting a clear penalty for the shove THEN foul on Bernardo, and then having to wait for Stockley Park to reluctantly tell him to go and look.
Gross' late challenge on Rodri went unpunished until someone had a word in the ref's ear.
Just 3 incidents, summing up why we are up against it.
Clear and simple
Yet if he was “bent” he could quite easily have ruled out the first goal for a shove by Haaland and this place would have been in uproar if we’d conceded the penalty they eventually did.
dadnlad
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Dermott will point it out on ref watchOn the Bernardo penalty they all failed to say he was also pushed, knocking him off balance and kicking his leg out was a result of that.
Yeah right