Referees/Officials

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Prestwich_Blue said:
Not singling you out but why can't people see the big picture here? We get ridiculous decisions week in, week out yet the rags get away with murder. There's a pattern; it's not just random refs and decisions. Think about what Scudamore said. Think about who the biggest fan-bases support (and therefore bring in the most revenue to the media companies).
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Completely agree with this. The decisions that are benefitting United are borderline ridiculous and must be amounting to 10-15 extra points alone this season. They've scored NINE offside goals this season already.

Combine this with their last four away games: Rojo gets away with a red for two footed tackles on Gueye and Zaha, Mata gets away with a two footed lunge on Sunday and Feghouli gets sent off for being fouled.

As you say, there's a clear pattern of decisions developing here, whilst Raheem Sterling can't seem to win a penalty even if someone decapitated him.
 
Dirty Harry said:
I've always rated Mike Dean very highly, saw him as a pretty fair ref, ran the game with a bit of common sense and was always quite happy to see him in charge, but this season, some of his refereeing has been utterly bizarre, bordering on ridiculous at times, the huge turnaround really does concern me as to whether it's a personal thing with Mike himself, or something of a more sinister nature, whatever it is, there's a marked change.
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Early season and he's giving pens like confetti at a wedding for the slightest touch in the area (See Stoke game) and then the notion of holding at corners is downgraded somewhat! Why's that? I thought of Mike Dean the same way - fair, oozing common sense and not putting up with player nonsense. I felt that if we lost with Dean reffing we were second best, but now he's part of the cabal of refs who have, if they are not instructed collectively, their own agenda which too often involves the bizarre at best and lack of even-handedness at worse.

I fear that the game will descend into an even gloomier place with the current crop of referees and that august body of fairness - the FArce. Funny how fairness and farce have the same opening letters! and the dyslexic might even come up with faisco for fiasco!
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Early season and he's giving pens like confetti at a wedding for the slightest touch in the area (See Stoke game) and then the notion of holding at corners is downgraded somewhat! Why's that? I thought of Mike Dean the same way - fair, oozing common sense and not putting up with player nonsense. I felt that if we lost with Dean reffing we were second best, but now he's part of the cabal of refs who have, if they are not instructed collectively, their own agenda which too often involves the bizarre at best and lack of even-handedness at worse.

I fear that the game will descend into an even gloomier place with the current crop of referees and that august body of fairness - the FArce. Funny how fairness and farce have the same opening letters! and the dyslexic might even come up with faisco for fiasco!
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I just think Dean must be retiring soon anyway so is boosting his pension and having some fun along the way.
 
I do agree that we get more than our fair share of shocking decisions, but I do think there is a wider problem with refereeing standards. Every game I watch there are some bizarre and shocking decisions. Last night in the derby Leicester game. Player clean through, keeper rushes out of his area and the forward knocks it past him. Keeper blatantly sticks his arm out to stop the ball abs a clear goal scoring chance. Ref just waved play on and books the Leicester player for protesting. They are so incompetent it's rediculous.
 
I understand that every weekend over £1bn, yes one billion is bet on the Premier League in Asia alone. Draw your own conclusions!!!
 
willipp said:
I do agree that we get more than our fair share of shocking decisions, but I do think there is a wider problem with refereeing standards. Every game I watch there are some bizarre and shocking decisions. Last night in the derby Leicester game. Player clean through, keeper rushes out of his area and the forward knocks it past him. Keeper blatantly sticks his arm out to stop the ball abs a clear goal scoring chance. Ref just waved play on and books the Leicester player for protesting. They are so incompetent it's rediculous.
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The same ref that booked Aguero for diving against Southampton when it was a clear foul against him. Incompetent or bent?
 
willipp said:
I do agree that we get more than our fair share of shocking decisions, but I do think there is a wider problem with refereeing standards. Every game I watch there are some bizarre and shocking decisions.
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The point I keep making is when does a bit of incompetence become a pattern? When it's happening every week it's a pattern. When we're getting the shitty end of the stick game after game yet the rags are getting away with murder, does that not suggest it's more than a few isolated bizarre decisions?
 
Is there anyone out there that can remember the last time that we have had a decent ref. at the Etihad. or for that matter when we played away from home. I can't recall one at the moment but probably the 4-1 win against the rags at home and the 6-1 at the theatre of dreamers. Oh yes the ref. that added all that fergie time against QPR to allow us to win the premier league for the 1st time..
 
TBooksbluearmy said:
Is there anyone out there that can remember the last time that we have had a decent ref. at the Etihad. or for that matter when we played away from home. I can't recall one at the moment but probably the 4-1 win against the rags at home and the 6-1 at the theatre of dreamers. Oh yes the ref. that added all that fergie time against QPR to allow us to win the premier league for the 1st time..
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Up to the time of the board going up there had been 2 goals scored and 4 substitutions, that alone is worth 3 minutes added on, once you factor in Barton and the fracas that followed 5 minutes was the least it should have been.
Put it this way, if it had been at the rags they'd have put up 10 minutes!!
 
inchy14 said:
Up to the time of the board going up there had been 2 goals scored and 4 substitutions, that alone is worth 3 minutes added on, once you factor in Barton and the fracas that followed 5 minutes was the least it should have been.
Put it this way, if it had been at the rags they'd have put up 10 minutes!!
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And he actually ended the game early anyway. A minimum of 5 minutes was put up. 2 goals were scored in that time so it should have been at least another minute on top of that but he blew up at about 94 and a half minutes. I think as soon as QPR booted the ball out for a throw in from the kick off he wisely thought stuff this I'm edging my way across to the tunnel and calling it a day!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The point I keep making is when does a bit of incompetence become a pattern? When it's happening every week it's a pattern. When we're getting the shitty end of the stick game after game yet the rags are getting away with murder, does that not suggest it's more than a few isolated bizarre decisions?
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It does yes, i agree we get more than our share of bad decisions, but speak to a liverpool fan and they think exactly the same as us, probably most teams do. Its united that seem to get it toally the other way, week in week out they get the right decisions that not only is a good decision for them, they are game changing decisions as well. Is it a deliberate action by the FA or refs association? I don't know, but there is 100% a problem with the overall standard of refereeing.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
The same ref that booked Aguero for diving against Southampton when it was a clear foul against him. Incompetent or bent?
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He's either on the take for every match he officiates, or he is just down right incompetent. I would probably lean towards the latter. He screws up huge decisions in every game he referees just about, not just when he refs city.
 
Is it such a hard thing to ask that the refs are consistent from 1 game to the next. Surely that is not that hard to do. after all they are supposed to be professional and know the laws inside out.
 
Bluemoon dan said:
And he actually ended the game early anyway. A minimum of 5 minutes was put up. 2 goals were scored in that time so it should have been at least another minute on top of that but he blew up at about 94 and a half minutes. I think as soon as QPR booted the ball out for a throw in from the kick off he wisely thought stuff this I'm edging my way across to the tunnel and calling it a day!
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He ended it because QPR manifestly were not going to bother. From the kickoff, I seem to recall the ball was smacked long into the corner, and almost nobody moved, and just waited for the ref to blow.
 
willipp said:
I do agree that we get more than our fair share of shocking decisions, but I do think there is a wider problem with refereeing standards. Every game I watch there are some bizarre and shocking decisions. Last night in the derby Leicester game. Player clean through, keeper rushes out of his area and the forward knocks it past him. Keeper blatantly sticks his arm out to stop the ball abs a clear goal scoring chance. Ref just waved play on and books the Leicester player for protesting. They are so incompetent it's rediculous.
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This kind of stuff is the most infuriating aspect of refereeing at the moment. The ref clearly makes a mistake - the world and his mrs, and the pet dog see the obvious error but draw it to the attention of said blunderer and there is a yellow card for your pains. The innocuous is sanctioned - see the yellow Gabriel J got for wafting an imaginary card at the ref - and the blatant is condoned.
 
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