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Gabriel
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Thought he was pretty good tonight. The spot for the tug on Stones was a difficult one to see in real time (and I'm intrigued to know what the agenda-ists think of it). The penalty shout for Sane was one that you want when it's your player, but would say is soft if given against you. The bookings for Toure, Sterling and Sane were fair, as were theirs. Think he gave a few soft ones in their favour (like when Toure clearly won the ball), but we're splitting hairs.
Had the roles been reversed, the tug on Stones would have merited a caution, so I was surprised he didn't book him; just relieved he spotted it.
According to Quinn later in the game a Bournemouth player went down rather easily but he said you only need a slight touch when running to lose balance. Yet earlier when Sane was fouled in the area his opinion was blatantly lacking.
PannickAtTheDisco
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Surely if they were secretly trialling video tech to the 4th official goals like Sanchez's on sat would of been instantly disallowed.
no, because they want Arsenal in the top 4. Try giving Sterling a penalty which could change the result on the other hand...
I suppose the whole "arms/hands in unnatural positions" bit is deliberately nebulous and open to subjective interpretation when it suits.
The amount of times those twats Webb or Gallagher say his arm was in an unnatural position so penalty. But if they had ever played the game to any kind of level, they would know when trying to block shots/crosses at pace, the only unnatural position for the arm to be in, is by the defenders sides. This train of thought started because Terry used to make a starfish to block crosses, and of course that shouldn't be allowed. But due to lack of leadership at the FA/PGMOL, this has now manifested itself into the mess we have today where you can see two similar incidents on the same weekend get two different decisions. Does my head in
Ed2607
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That was the best neutral ref performance we've had all season. Credit where due. When I look back at the points we've lost already due to refs we'd be up there with Chelski
Neville Kneville
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The amount of times those twats Webb or Gallagher say his arm was in an unnatural position so penalty. But if they had ever played the game to any kind of level, they would know when trying to block shots/crosses at pace, the only unnatural position for the arm to be in, is by the defenders sides. This train of thought started because Terry used to make a starfish to block crosses, and of course that shouldn't be allowed. But due to lack of leadership at the FA/PGMOL, this has now manifested itself into the mess we have today where you can see two similar incidents on the same weekend get two different decisions. Does my head in
That's the annoying thing.
They have clearly established in recent times, rightly or wrongly, that hands close to the body usually means 'no pen' wheras hands raised or away from the body usually means 'pen'.
Then the same ref, or reffing 'team' suddenly change the rules when they feel like it.
Mr Ed (The Stables)
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That was the best neutral ref performance we've had all season. Credit where due. When I look back at the points we've lost already due to refs we'd be up there with Chelski
Totally agree. Best ref we've had all season.
Sunny Coast Blue
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That was the best neutral ref performance we've had all season. Credit where due. When I look back at the points we've lost already due to refs we'd be up there with Chelski
He did well, it was like the Twighlight zone watching that ref, unbelievable Jeff.
SkyBlueTX
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Neil Swarbrick did a fine job tonight, especially on the foul for the disallowed goal.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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Sane did against Spurs, or is it only if it's the last touch of the ball?Sergio did not score, therein lies the difference.
slicky202
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Isn't it crazy that the half time punditry consisted of,how dare the referee give a correct decision for the foul on stones. The ref could of said he didn't see it and decided not to take the opportunity to screw us. Chuckle was furious.
Agree, strange the ref being criticised by the pundits for giving a correct decision because he couldn't have seen it. BizarreIsn't it crazy that the half time punditry consisted of,how dare the referee give a correct decision for the foul on stones. The ref could of said he didn't see it and decided not to take the opportunity to screw us. Chuckle was furious.
2 great examples this weekend why technology won't help:
1. The France/Scotland rugby - France "try" goes to TMO. All the commentators saying defo try. TMO says no try and actually gets the rule wrong when disallowing
2. Howard Webb in the Times today re sanchez handball - he said he would have allowed it
Technology introduces more, rather than replaces, flawed human subjectivity. And whilst it does, we get further away from the purest form of the game.
it's a "no" from me.
Howard Webb is why video refereeing won't work. He said that Navas got fouled in the penalty area against Everton a year or so ago but it was a good decision by the ref not to give a penalty because he went down a funny way.
He is the type that would be a video ref. Probably even run the video ref department.
As I said earlier the last touch is the one that counts.Sane did against Spurs, or is it only if it's the last touch of the ball?
Hamann Pineapple
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This is what worries me about video refereeing, who decides which angles to replay, SKY ?Isn't it crazy that the half time punditry consisted of,how dare the referee give a correct decision for the foul on stones. The ref could of said he didn't see it and decided not to take the opportunity to screw us. Chuckle was furious.
Mid Wales blue
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Pretty sure it was Zidane who gave the nod.He's not supposed to, I think there was a huge decision in the world cup(maybe Zidane?) where the 4th official gave the ref the nod
Gordyola
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Agree, strange the ref being criticised by the pundits for giving a correct decision because he couldn't have seen it. Bizarre
How the hell can they claim that he couldn't see it Was he looking the other way NO could they see the direction he was looking at from the pictures they shown NO Having shown the foul clearly then there was no need to go over it again and again