Reform UK Party Limited Company

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Haha whatever they didn't come third.

Haha Vote share wise they did, which is what I said.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The reform apologists are a strange breed.
Everything about them (the party, well PLC company) screams fear and hatred with a good smattering of racist jingoism thrown in for good measure.
If that’s your bag then crack on but don’t be shocked that people will think you’re a bit of a ****.
At this point though you probably realise you’re a **** and not only don’t care but take as much pride in it as you do when waving your little flags whilst singing the national anthem before bedtime.
Cunts.

A not-insignificant portion of Reform apologists are people that have gone down the far-right rabbit hole online in the attempt to “do their own research” and have come back out believing themselves to not only be experts on the disenfranchised (and politics and economics) but also seeing themselves as “real” moderates on the political spectrum, as opposed to those of us that denounce Reform as inherently jingoistic, largely racist, and fascist-leaning, which are far-left “sheeple”.

Many of them thought Brexit was not a bad idea, thought claims that Donald Trump was a threat to not only American democracy but to Europe, as well, were nonsense (and even now berate anyone raising fears of what the Orange Mussolini will do if re-elected), and see Marine Le Pen and the National Rally party as merely a necessary (and inevitable) “right-leaning” response to “wokism”.

Once you are in the cult, it is extremely difficult to not only convince yourself you are in one, but to manage to break free from it.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

tbf getting more % vote than the libs and getting 67 less seats its a fair shout

It is, and that's not going to change any time soon - the two biggest parties don't want it.

Faragism is all about stoking "why am I being screwed over", so it wasn't a surprise.

More of a surprise was the BBC cutting away to show people walking along a road one at a time!

 

[MillionMilesAway]

It’s not exactly great. Similar with the people shouting and harassing Jess Philips and Angela Reynar last night. You might not like the outcome, but you shouldn’t need to heckle someone to get your point across.

I was more surprised that that many protestors got into what doesn't look like a big room - seemed a bit amateurish in organisation.
Couldn't hear anything they were saying anyway, but they seemed quite angry. Security seemed to be 'some guys' too, rather than anything organised (which I guess you'd have to pay for!).

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

The rise of Reform is concerning, but hopefully it serves one purpose and that is to make the Tory party sensible again, but it depends which nutjob takes over as leader. Johnson bless his cuddly little cotton socks has well and truly fucked them over.

The question is where do Reform go from here, my concern is they have a mandate to go further right like Marie Le Pen.

It is concerning because he has taken votes from conservatives and some of Labour’s votes, the first thing he promises to do is loudly demand PR .

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

its they're main ticket there no doubting that and its an issue that needs addressing
but your sensationalist soundbite stops any reasonable debate
as far as i'm aware they haven't said they would stop immigration but control it better(i haven't voted for them by the way)

It’s not going away and not really gaining traction.

2015, 3.8m voted UKIP
2024, 4m voted for UKIP rebranded.

They’re a one issue party that doesn’t seem to be doing very much bar shouting at the establishment.

 

[tonea2003]

It is, and that's not going to change any time soon - the two biggest parties don't want it.

Faragism is all about stoking "why am I being screwed over", so it wasn't a surprise.

More of a surprise was the BBC cutting away to show people walking along a road one at a time!

i agree it ain't going to change anytime soon
but everytime the flaws in it shows its face the injustice of it will be shown
on "faragism" its up to the individual to decide if they really are being screwed and to what extent

 

[tonea2003]

It’s not going away and not really gaining traction.

2015, 3.8m voted UKIP
2024, 4m voted for UKIP rebranded.

They’re a one issue party that doesn’t seem to be doing very much bar shouting at the establishment.

i read the "contract" and there is a lot more than just immigration in there, how valid or relevant is up for debate
but to say they're just a one policy party is disingenuous
again it may peter out but we'll see

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

i read the "contract" and there is a lot more than just immigration in there, how valid or relevant is up for debate
but to say they're just a one policy party is disingenuous
again it may peter out but we'll see

The rest of their manifesto was uncosted and under-scrutinised as they could promise the moon, knowing they wouldn’t have to follow it through.

They are very much a one issue company, with a scattering of other policies fired out at random.

Now he’s finally got a seat in Parliament, he’ll have to show he’s willing to do the graft and be transparent with his finances.

My guess is that he’ll give it a few months, get bored of being totally ignored in the house and then scuttle off into the shadows as he’s too lazy to keep it up.

Maybe the occasional rally too.

 

[tonea2003]

The rest of their manifesto was uncosted and under-scrutinised as they could promise the moon, knowing they wouldn’t have to follow it through.

They are very much a one issue company, with a scattering of other policies fired out at random.

Now he’s finally got a seat in Parliament, he’ll have to show he’s willing to do the graft and be transparent with his finances.

My guess is that he’ll give it a few months, get bored of being totally ignored in the house and then scuttle off into the shadows as he’s too lazy to keep it up.

Maybe the occasional rally too.

like i say you maybe right but you can argue to same for the lib dems and the greens