Refugee crisis

[BigJoe#1]

I think you've just sourced a white power website. Could be wrong.

I think with stuff like this we should always be a bit weary of our outlets. Some sites will pick and choose snippets of information and quotes from sources to further an agenda.

That doesn't mean to say that there aren't people exploiting the refugee crisis. I'm certain they are, but I'd caution against quoting and believing everything from random news sites. Particularly ones that frequently use the phrase "non-white hordes"



Like the above from the article you pasted

I accept there are many and various versions of truth out there.... which ones do you recommend we should believe and quote?

I don't think there is much question about what is happening in Central Europe right now, many posters on here could foresee this the moment Merkele suggested Germany could take 500,000 a year which was always going to be a challenge, especially in these early days.

Personally I feel there is likely to be even more growing unrest as a result, so when incidents are reported should we, or should we not, digest and analyse them and come to our own individual conclusions, or should we ignore them as being scaremongering and sweep them under the carpet and carry on regardless.. assuming that is, that we accept them to be untruths?

 

[The Count Of Monte Cristo]

I accept there are many and various versions of truth out there.... which ones do you recommend we should believe and quote?

Maybe ones that don't use inflammatory language like;
'boxes of fake Syrian passports, destined for sale and distribution to the hordes of nonwhite invaders seeking to settle in Europe as bogus “war refugees,”

Also looking at the website you've taken this from, another article on their page is titled;
'Ungrateful Invaders Demand Houses'

Another article is titled;

Israel bars "refugees", Builds Wall while Jews Support "Refugee" Invasion of Europe.

The article leads with this paragraph:

In yet another astonishing display of hypocritical Jewish Supremacism, the Israeli government has refused to accept any “refugees” from Syria or Africa—and is building a new wall to keep them out—while Israel-supporting Jews in Europe and America continue to demand that non-Jewish countries accept all Third World invaders without question.

I agree with the poster who stated earlier, this is a fucking white power racist website'.

I'm pissed off I've followed a link from here posted by you, which led me to a fucking site like that.

 

[Grolsch30]

Artikel in my lokal Celler Kurier saying that in the emergency Shelter in Scheuen which consists of large Tents where 470 Men, Women and children are living plus another 100 coming on Friday.

Of These arrivals 35% are Syrians
11% from Afgahnistan
9% from Irak
5% Pakistan
5% Eritrea & Sudan
Less than 10% from the Balkons

2/3's are men
1/4 under 18
The largest Overall Age Group is between 22 -30 years old.

The Artikel goes onto say that they don't know how acurate the figures are because they can only base them on what the migrants/refugees/ Asylum seekers tell them.
Also alot of the refugees/migrants or whatever Label you want to use have just left the camp and vanished. The helpers who are working there said they cannot stop them because they are apparently free to go wherever they want, and the helpers Job is not to stop them but help them!!

 

[BigJoe#1]

Maybe ones that don't use inflammatory language like;
'boxes of fake Syrian passports, destined for sale and distribution to the hordes of nonwhite invaders seeking to settle in Europe as bogus “war refugees,”

Also looking at the website you've taken this from, another article on their page is titled;
'Ungrateful Invaders Demand Houses'

Another article is titled;

Israel bars "refugees", Builds Wall while Jews Support "Refugee" Invasion of Europe.

The article leads with this paragraph:

In yet another astonishing display of hypocritical Jewish Supremacism, the Israeli government has refused to accept any “refugees” from Syria or Africa—and is building a new wall to keep them out—while Israel-supporting Jews in Europe and America continue to demand that non-Jewish countries accept all Third World invaders without question.

I agree with the poster who stated earlier, this is a fucking white power racist website'.

I'm pissed off I've followed a link from here posted by you, which led me to a fucking site like that.

To make a fair and reasonable judgement don't you need the full range of views and then put your own perspective on it? You cannot deny that immigration isn't an issue and that some people feel very strongly about it. Others quite rightly are extremely sympathetic and choose to consider allowing a mass immigration as being the preferred solution. I am sure the answer may not even Kay anywhere between these two viewpoints, but that's only my view.

I find that sometimes trying to understand others' points of view is the best place to start if you want engage in positive and productive discussion.... Even if you consider it to be way off the mark as far as you're concerned.

Anyway, it's unfortunate that my link took you somewhere where you didn't want to go (absolutely no offence intended)! but I hope it's given you a broader perspective from which you can construct arguments to support your points of view.

 

[Dubai Blue]

To make a fair and reasonable judgement don't you need the full range of views and then put your own perspective on it? You cannot deny that immigration isn't an issue and that some people feel very strongly about it. Others quite rightly are extremely sympathetic and choose to consider allowing a mass immigration as being the preferred solution. I am sure the answer may not even Kay anywhere between these two viewpoints, but that's only my view.

I find that sometimes trying to understand others' points of view is the best place to start if you want engage in positive and productive discussion.... Even if you consider it to be way off the mark as far as you're concerned.

Anyway, it's unfortunate that my link took you somewhere where you didn't want to go (absolutely no offence intended)! but I hope it's given you a broader perspective from which you can construct arguments to support your points of view.

But the article you linked to was a load of fabricated nonsense. It regurgitated something we've all heard before (suggestions that terrorists are sneaking into Europe disguised as refugees) and claims to prove that this is indeed now happening by publishing a photo that doesn't show anything of the sort. What can we possibly learn from that?

 

[stonerblue]

But the article you linked to was a load of fabricated nonsense. It regurgitated something we've all heard before (suggestions that terrorists are sneaking into Europe disguised as refugees) and claims to prove that this is indeed now happening by publishing a photo that doesn't show anything of the sort. What can we possibly learn from that?

What we learn from that is anyone can find a 'news' story that suits their agenda.

 

[Scottyboi]

Maybe ones that don't use inflammatory language like;
'boxes of fake Syrian passports, destined for sale and distribution to the hordes of nonwhite invaders seeking to settle in Europe as bogus “war refugees,”

Also looking at the website you've taken this from, another article on their page is titled;
'Ungrateful Invaders Demand Houses'

Another article is titled;

Israel bars "refugees", Builds Wall while Jews Support "Refugee" Invasion of Europe.

The article leads with this paragraph:

In yet another astonishing display of hypocritical Jewish Supremacism, the Israeli government has refused to accept any “refugees” from Syria or Africa—and is building a new wall to keep them out—while Israel-supporting Jews in Europe and America continue to demand that non-Jewish countries accept all Third World invaders without question.

I agree with the poster who stated earlier, this is a fucking white power racist website'.

I'm pissed off I've followed a link from here posted by you, which led me to a fucking site like that.

Just click off it and stop crying, some **** linked me to a United blog once I just manned up and had a bath.

 

[BigJoe#1]

But the article you linked to was a load of fabricated nonsense. It regurgitated something we've all heard before (suggestions that terrorists are sneaking into Europe disguised as refugees) and claims to prove that this is indeed now happening by publishing a photo that doesn't show anything of the sort. What can we possibly learn from that?

Not sure I get your point....

You say it's fabricated, regurgitated nonsense, something we've all heard before.... So do you think terrorists are being smuggled into Europe under the cover of the Refugees or not is where this part of the debate begins. The fact that an old picture is being used is poor journalism I agree but don't let that deflect from the point being made. It's being made in more than one or two places and countries.

I'll assume (possibly incorrectly) that you accept thus is correct, in which case is it not worthy of discussion?

My main points around this is that it appears Germany are now acknowledging there's a problem (more so than some posters on BM), not necessarily an infiltration problem but certainly a control problem, which by definition identifies an increased infiltration risk, or don't you agree?

If as is being reported there are issues in Switzerland, Greece, Germany, Austria as well as the well documented issues (not all the of the refugees making) in Hungary, I do think it is a matter of concern on many fronts, many fronts that we in the UK need to understand as it will only be a matter of time before we're instructed to accepte big numbers of refugees, which in turn opens a whole load of new issues especially if potentially there could be terrorists in that number we as a nation need to have informed dabate.

I guess it all depends on if you believe these sporadic outbursts of violence are fact or fiction, and then about what are the causes?

 

[Dubai Blue]

Of course there's the potential for terrorists to disguise themselves as refugees, but it all seems a bit far-fetched to me. And linking to an article that erroneously claims to show categoric evidence that this is indeed happening does nothing to further the debate.

 

[CityStu]

Of course there's the potential for terrorists to disguise themselves as refugees, but it all seems a bit far-fetched to me. And linking to an article that erroneously claims to show categoric evidence that this is indeed happening does nothing to further the debate.

Why does it seem far fetched? If you were leading ISIS' strategy, would you want activists among the refugees?