Religion

[malg]

I think it’s possible most don’t really believe deep down. Like a kid clinging onto Santa Claus, hearing rumours he’s made up but just shutting it out.

I'd like to think that's true, as a grown adult can't genuinely believe in God. I'm already waiting on that "it all depends on epwhat you mean by God" fucking shite. They always hide behind bollocks like that. We all know what it means - you believe in a fucking idiotic ideal that someone up there is watching us......fuck off. It's just wank, and angers me nearly as much as Rags, or men who fucking sing that Robbie Williams Angels shite at karaoke......cünts.

 

[arfurclue]

The most important thing is that the heretics get flayed alive.

In some religious people's eyes I would qualify as a heretic - a blasphemer to be tortured and burned at the stake. In other non-religious
people eye's I apparently qualify as a loony, unhinged, utterly cuntish fool that should be put in a mental asylum. Such is life ;)

 

[aguero93:20]

In some religious people's eyes I would qualify as a heretic - a blasphemer to be tortured and burned at the stake. In other non-religious
people eye's I apparently qualify as a loony, unhinged, utterly cuntish fool that should be put in a mental asylum. Such is life ;)

You're going to burn in hell mate. I'll get the first round?

 

[arfurclue]

You're going to burn in hell mate. I'll get the first round?

Cheers! It seems there are many different ways of basically saying 'if you don't agree/submit to my dogma, then you will surely go to hell.'
I'm not always sure whether it's best to mention that its those moments when I drop dogmatic thinking that I begin to open to states of being that feel more 'heavenly' in
nature than 'hellish.' Probably best not to, as that might put the shit amongst the pigeons or the cat might hit the fan or something. But
then again...

 

[I'm With Stupid]

You're going to burn in hell mate. I'll get the first round?

 

[tonea2003]

Cheers! It seems there are many different ways of basically saying 'if you don't agree/submit to my dogma, then you will surely go to hell.'
I'm not always sure whether it's best to mention that its those moments when I drop dogmatic thinking that I begin to open to states of being that feel more 'heavenly' in
nature than 'hellish.' Probably best not to, as that might put the shit amongst the pigeons or the cat might hit the fan or something. But
then again...

i doubt you will be going to hell

 

[arfurclue]

i doubt you will be going to hell

Thanks :) And food for thought, if you wish to consider...

What if there could be said to be two ways - one could be called the battle of good vs evil, the other the union of heaven and earth.

The former might involve learning (and trying to follow) a set of morals so as to become good and then help God defeat evil. If God reckons you've done a good enough job then you'll get to go to heaven after you die.

The latter might be more akin to asking 'are you suffering? If so, here is a way that you can freely choose (no 'punishment' if you don't) to let go of the binds of 'hell,' so opening more to 'heavenly' qualities (eg love, harmony, joy, beauty etc) that can then come to be known and expressed through earth (the body).

If one then looks back at who put the bible together, it might be an idea to ask whether they were more likely to be invested in the former (eg war) or the latter (eg harmony). Beyond that, it might be suggested that in the former way it would be the church who decided who was best following 'the way', according their understanding; in the latter the populace themselves would come to know how well they were each following 'the way' through their own direct experience.

The other thing that might be suggested is that the good vs evil or union of heaven and earth choice, is not something that is necessarily limited to religion - other versions of this may be found in governent, law, science etc

 

[tonea2003]

Thanks :) And food for thought, if you wish to consider...

What if there could be said to be two ways - one could be called the battle of good vs evil, the other the union of heaven and earth.

The former might involve learning (and trying to follow) a set of morals so as to become good and then help God defeat evil. If God reckons you've done a good enough job then you'll get to go to heaven after you die.

The latter might be more akin to asking 'are you suffering? If so, here is a way that you can freely choose (no 'punishment' if you don't) to let go of the binds of 'hell,' so opening more to 'heavenly' qualities (eg love, harmony, joy, beauty etc) that can then come to be known and expressed through earth (the body).

If one then looks back at who put the bible together, it might be an idea to ask whether they were more likely to be invested in the former (eg war) or the latter (eg harmony). Beyond that, it might be suggested that in the former way it would be the church who decided who was best following 'the way', according their understanding; in the latter the populace themselves would come to know how well they were each following 'the way' through their own direct experience.

The other thing that might be suggested is that the good vs evil or union of heaven and earth choice, is not something that is necessarily limited to religion - other versions of this may be found in governent, law, science etc

i was with you up to word evil then it went into realms i do not recognize, you got me back when other versions came in

 

[arfurclue]

i was with you up to word evil then it went into realms i do not recognize, you got me back when other versions came in

Ah, ok. Roughly speaking it's just speaking of a change from a way of war to a way of peace. For me I had to go deeper into 'war,' which lead to suffering, which lead to a deeper
desire for peace. In that way I found that quite a lot that is considered normal by society is more a reflection of a way of war than a way of peace. So 'religion' can be used
to serve war for sure but, for me, having an interest in divinity does not necessarily imply a belief/investment in war. The same goes for other fields too.

 

[Two Gun Bob]

or men who fucking sing that Robbie Williams Angels shite at karaoke......cünts.