Repercussions - From the PL, FA, UEFA and within the Club

[blueparrot]

Football isn’t big business. It just pays big business wages. Football is the epitome of fur coat and no knickers.

Football clubs are spending 50% of their income on wages. And 20% on transfer fees. Football is going to eat itself soon because of this. Football clubs act like they’re these big professional businesses but barely make any money.

There needs to be some sort of revolution but it’s not to save a handful of clubs with a load of debt, it has to come from the other end and have caps on wages and transfer fees. Make football about how well coached you are and how well you play, not about how much money you have or how much debt you can get in compared to everyone else.

That’s never going to happen, all elite sport is about, money,T.V, sponsorship. As the worlds most popular sport football will alway involve highly paid players, and big money. Same as Golf, Tennis, Boxing,motor racing, NFL, Basketball. Can it be better managed, and controlled yes and we need to try and move to that. Can it ever go back to being just about how well you are coached and play and only about the fans in the ground and ‘on the terraces’, no. Think the vision @Prestwich_Blue is posting is a far more realistic road to try and go down.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Totally agree with this.
No more coefficients, istree clubs etc make it a straight knock out.
As for money then couldn’t they pay out the bulk solely on qualifying alone.
then the CL actually becomes a football tournament with a trophy as the main aim.

That's a good point. The only direct financial reward for winning the Superbowl is that each player on the winning team gets a bonus around $100k. Losing team players get half that. That's it.

 

[ysmsa]

Not necessarily. Some of that PL money goes to the lower leagues, plus the EFL do the same thing.

But I've said before that the EFL in its current form is unsustainable in my opinion. It should be two leagues of 18 teams per league, probably regional, with the winner of each league gaining automatic promotion and the runners-up going into a play-off for the third place.

Parachute payments then become a thing of the past, as the EFL will have its own rules about distribution of income and salary caps. Player contracts would also need legally binding clauses about wage reductions in the event of relegation, in order to meet the reduced cap.

I think a case could be made for reducing promotion and relegation to the PL from 3 to 2.
It would be seen as protecting the PL clubs but it would give promoted teams more chance of staying up.

The clubs that get into huge financial difficulties are the ones that have a taste of the PL money then have it snatched away. Literally boom and bust.

 

[mexico1970]

Forcing the history teams to not buy what they can't afford is a start, none of this came to my attention when they could afford the players they wanted and other teams knew their place, this "Movement" has come to the fore in earnest because of us Chelsea and PSG barging into the conversation.

Arranging another big pay day namely the ESL was just a power grab by the usual suspects, so what if we can afford players that they can't, they've ran the market for decades now and it looks like their time is very much up, we shouldn't develop some altruistic misguided need to help them, we should take joy in watching them burn.

That being said, the knockout only addition to all cup competitions would be great, it would add more to each and every game. The largest obstacle to that is the overseers like the FA, UEFA and of course FIFA who given the chance will do everything and anything to help the same clubs over and over again.

Again, nobody cared when we nearly went out of business, nobody claimed that football was dying. Who are we saving football for? The only way to get football back is for it to break and if it breaks then so be it.

 

[blueju]

If Chelsea first then us, PSG, Red Bull hadn’t burst on the scene the fuckers would still be in their Big 4/Super Sunday/chumps league bubble and the rest of the football world would be licking their boots happy to be on the same pitch and would be forever more.

 

[eastmanc]

As an overseas fan of Man City - and one who was 100% opposed to the superleague concept - and furthermore - who believes that our management reluctantly decided to join the supposed superleague in the mistaken belief that it would come to fruition - then for me - 100% - our management did nothing wrong - we appear to have been drawn into this mess - and were reluctant to sign up - but we seemed to have no choice.

No repercussions for our club seem to be in order.

The main perpetrators seem to be Real Madrid, Man United and Liverpool.

It's not clear to me how to punish these culprits without punishing us at the same time - we seem to have been at best luke warm to the superleague - and seem to have joined simply because we thought that not doing so might very well render us irrelevant.

Is this true Prestwich Blue.

 

[eastmanc]

Not saying I agree at all with this ESL bollocks. But Rat boy Neville going all Che Guevara is comical. I remember growing up when football was more unpredictable, I.e league or cup winners. But around the Prem era, I do recall thinking what’s the point as there was zero hope it was our year for any trophy win, when the Sky 4 dominated.

You mean United and Arsenal.

 

[Bill]

That black and white Robinson Crusoe

unmissable . loved it .

 

[TonyM]

Of the SL clubs,
1. Whoever wins the League, e.g. City, A.Madrid, Inter should be allowed into the CL,
2. The other 9 should figure out amongst them who can get 1 remaining spot. I know 9 is an awkward number for playoff but that's where they can put their big brains to the test, maybe it should be whichever team has the most history? Or the highest debt? Or some other nonesense.

:-)

Let's see how many would tune in to see. And then watch them cry as the coppers go to the CL.

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

If Chelsea first then us, PSG, Red Bull hadn’t burst on the scene the fuckers would still be in their Big 4/Super Sunday/chumps league bubble and the rest of the football world would be licking their boots happy to be on the same pitch and would be forever more.

Super Sunday. Who would have thought that a computer fixture programme would have randomly drawn Chavs, Scum, Dippers and Arse on the same day so frequently. Soporific Sunday more like.