Return of Supporters

There's talk of vaccines being distributed at the end of October and early November in the USA (Moderna and Pfizer). However, it might get mired in political controversy (some will see it as an attempt to influence the election. The Oxford vaccine Phase 3 trial has only just started in the USA so it's unlikely to get approval there so soon, but it might in the UK around the same time. This assumes the trials are successful.
 
RegMuffin said:
Quiet a few are doing the same - asking for £60 up front sorts out who's intending to return and who's sitting the season out. Shame City didn't do the same or we'd perhaps know what's what by now and they wouldn't be second guessing how many want to actually go to Burnley at home....

Leicester have done this. If you never get chosen in the ballot the £60 is rolled over to next season's ticket. Interesting that success in their ballot seems to reduce the chances in the next ballot cycle.
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For our first home game back, City could just do a ballot from the season card holders who carried over a credit for this season (or guarantee these Blues an offer of a seat if numbers allow). I would miss my first home game in several years (that spectators were allowed into) but I think the Blues who carried over a credit deserve to be prioritised.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
For our first home game back, City could just do a ballot from the season card holders who carried over a credit for this season (or guarantee these Blues an offer of a seat if numbers allow). I would miss my first home game in several years (that spectators were allowed into) but I think the Blues who carried over a credit deserve to be prioritised.
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Not sure I agree with that idea. Plenty of people needed the refunds and were in desperate financial times. Giving those with credit first dabs links loyalty to an ability of afford.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
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So rugby fans can sit next to each other if they're in the same household (not separated as the Brighton test game was). Tickets are not named. They can sell their tickets but only on the proviso that they inform the buyer of the Code Of Conduct. Track and trace is done via a stadium app and no photo ID is required.

Seems that rules are different for rugby than for football, with us for some reason over-policed and untrusted.
 
didsburyblu said:
This would make perfect sense. Alit of people simply won't go alone so if they're the only one pulled out of their friends group then they won't attend and ticket wasted.
We have plenty of blues who travel up from down south who share transport who again would see it as financially unviable if only one was picked out so hopefully the club will look at grouping some fans if required so it's either all go or none go.
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When you consider in most of greater Manchester and beyond you can,t even meet anyone in your back garden never mind sit together in a stadium things are going to have to get a lot better before they even consider this ballot
 
dan05delaney said:
I've been told the club are also aiming for around that 15k mark for the 17th Oct, and as an slight fun point, we could potentially be allowed more people in the stadium than other teams based in Trafford due to the fact their stadium has a smaller concourse so fans can't distance which is where ours works in our favor
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Smaller concourses, seats, leg space in rows, aisles, vomitories, toilets and far less space around the ground.

Arsenal is the opposite, you have twice as much room as at united, even the seats.
 
RegMuffin said:
So rugby fans can sit next to each other if they're in the same household (not separated as the Brighton test game was). Tickets are not named. They can sell their tickets but only on the proviso that they inform the buyer of the Code Of Conduct. Track and trace is done via a stadium app and no photo ID is required.

Seems that rules are different for rugby than for football, with us for some reason over-policed and untrusted.
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it is the same stage 5 guidance for all sports stadia, and every club with apply it differently regardless.
 
Reported the dippers will be around 12500.

Doesn’t sound very appealing with those numbers. Knowing my luck I would get Southampton at home on a Monday night in December.
 
I am involved with the reintroduction of crowds to racing next week, for the St Leger meeting. Approximately 4000 people per day, spilt into zones & strictly monitored, as an industry, all sports stadia effectively “have to start somewhere” we have to demonstrate that the stadiums can be ran safely, and we will. Please be patient, there is a huge amount of effort going into these pilot events. For what it’s worth, I think we will be back to “Normal” in stadiums in the spring of next year.
 
valleyblue said:
I am involved with the reintroduction of crowds to racing next week, for the St Leger meeting. Approximately 4000 people per day, spilt into zones & strictly monitored, as an industry, all sports stadia effectively “have to start somewhere” we have to demonstrate that the stadiums can be ran safely, and we will. Please be patient, there is a huge amount of effort going into these pilot events. For what it’s worth, I think we will be back to “Normal” in stadiums in the spring of next year.
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Good luck
 
valleyblue said:
I am involved with the reintroduction of crowds to racing next week, for the St Leger meeting. Approximately 4000 people per day, spilt into zones & strictly monitored, as an industry, all sports stadia effectively “have to start somewhere” we have to demonstrate that the stadiums can be ran safely, and we will. Please be patient, there is a huge amount of effort going into these pilot events. For what it’s worth, I think we will be back to “Normal” in stadiums in the spring of next year.
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Would you mind expanding on your final line? Being back at a full etihad is something I spend far too many minutes a week thinking about. Is this a Hunch or more? If someone said to me now you will be back in March. (Another 6 months) I think I could handle that as long as I knew!
 
worsleyweb said:
Would you mind expanding on your final line? Being back at a full etihad is something I spend far too many minutes a week thinking about. Is this a Hunch or more? If someone said to me now you will be back in March. (Another 6 months) I think I could handle that as long as I knew!
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Not the OP, but my opinion is that we probably won't be back to full capacity until after we have a vaccine and at least 75% of people have been vaccinated.
Or possibly until a large proportion of the population have been shown to have anti-bodies which remain active for several months.
I missed 7 home games last season (possibly 8 if I include the home leg of the Lyon tie which would have been played if not for Covid), and that's more than the total number of home games I've missed over the past 30 years. - I've been lucky to see that many games, and I want to get back.
 
RegMuffin said:
Not sure I agree with that idea. Plenty of people needed the refunds and were in desperate financial times. Giving those with credit first dabs links loyalty to an ability of afford.
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It certainly links loyalty to loyalty. What you say will be true in some case even though people had committed to paying for their season cards and would have been saving on travel etc. Likewise there will be some people whose finances were strained who supported the Club by carrying over the credit.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
It certainly links loyalty to loyalty. What you say will be true in some case even though people had committed to paying for their season cards and would have been saving on travel etc. Likewise there will be some people whose finances were strained who supported the Club by carrying over the credit.
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The email said it could be used against the 2020/21 ST costs - there may never have been any 2020/21 ST costs so it could have been completely lost from the wording of the email. If it had said for any future costs I may have carried it over, and we were only given a week to call the club to do it so it was a mess about to do it with no incentive whatsoever.

They can't make up rules in retrospect. It was always more prudent to have it in my bank account than theirs given possible risks.
 
Corky said:
They can't make up rules in retrospect. It was always more prudent to have it in my bank account than theirs given possible risks.
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Tell me about it, trying to get deposits back for cruises that I refused to pay the balance for and then they were subsequently cancelled has been a bloody nightmare.
 
Brunswick Blue said:
When you consider in most of greater Manchester and beyond you can,t even meet anyone in your back garden never mind sit together in a stadium things are going to have to get a lot better before they even consider this ballot
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It’s a personal choice is people want to be part of the phased in approach.

For me I won’t take the risk and will not return until the vaccine has been rolled and has been successful
 
Tim of the Oak said:
It certainly links loyalty to loyalty. What you say will be true in some case even though people had committed to paying for their season cards and would have been saving on travel etc. Likewise there will be some people whose finances were strained who supported the Club by carrying over the credit.
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We're not a lower league club where sudden loss of income threatens our existence. If we were then I could kind of see where this is coming from but it's a tough sell by the club to say "you can come back first because you gave us a credit but you over there can't because you needed the cash to feed the kids" etc etc.
 
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