Return of Supporters

as i've said before i doubt me and mum will be trying to go next season, but reading this i think i've shot myself in the foot *if* we did want to go at some point (doubtful, it's not safe for her, i'm not great health either!), as i updated my details to not have me and mum at the same address anymore. I moved out when i had my little boy in 2016 but always kept the address the same with city (mainly as the letterbox is so small season ticket boxes wouldn't fit through and i do not trust the neighbours!). So i updated it last week, as in case i need ID it needed to match my bank etc.
But now me and mum wouldn't count as the same household! :( Even though i live 3 minutes walk away, and she lives isolated on her own at 77 and i'm her "bubble" (in this lovely town we call Rochdale... where no bugger seems to follow the rules except me and my family.)

Not a dig at anyone, just me thinking out loud i guess. City will probably view us as not from eth same household. And i guess techincally we're not. But we feel that we are. 41 years i lived with my mum in the same house she moved into 2 weeks before i was born, and now i'm 3 minutes walk away, looking after her, being her support, her life.

And thanks for all the info PB, i know you're doing your best.

I know that most of us don't fancy going next season. But skip to a trophy lift next May and i expect many to think "well maybe it's safe now"! ;)
To be fair to the club, they've been very good over this so far but I don't expect them to make a judgement on everyone's social bubble. We might be able to hammer out something for people in the same household but the club also has to be seen to be whiter than white and protect its own interests here.
 
I have found the SGSA guidelines and there appears to be no such restriction as City are stating. In fact the text refers to people booking for others and the requirement for the track and trace information that is supplied by reference to supporter number as under family group. So the club has no justification to change te terms and conditions of the seasoncard for track and trace.
Arsenal conditions for 2020/2012 membership are published and unchanged, same as citys terms and conditions.

Until you can tell us where you got your requirements from then it has to be treated as fake information.
So you, who I presume have no contact with the club, know more than PB, who has DIRECT contact at meetings with senior people at the club ?
 
That sounds like a very complicated algorithm.
I think you are giving a little too much credit to the ticket office.

Perhaps, but it really shouldn’t be that hard.

If there are 15,000 tickets let’s say, and 30,000 people enter the ballot; you get one entry per 500 points plus X amount of entries for a season card holder and Y amount for citizens membership.

For every game there after, where there aren’t enough tickets to supply demand, take away 1 or 2 entries per match attended for anyone who’s already been.

The NBA work a similar system for their draft system - if yanks can get something to work, we certainly can - especially with computer algorithms. Hell, we’re sponsored by Cisco and SAP - one of those 2 could sort it standing on their heads.
 
Hi all first post here I’m just wondering if anyone can help with a couple of questions

1 if you defer your season card can you enter a ballot on a match by match basis

2 if you don’t defer your season card are you automatically put into a ballot for every game city play

3 how long before the match will we know if we are successful if the ballot. This will be useful to organise travel

4 if you are successful in the ballot and decide not to go weather it be last minute or you let the club know straight away will you be punished. Like some club’s do

5 will all“ticket point” just remain as they are and start up again in 21/22 season

cheers in advance if anyone can help on this
 
Hi all first post here I’m just wondering if anyone can help with a couple of questions

1 if you defer your season card can you enter a ballot on a match by match basis

2 if you don’t defer your season card are you automatically put into a ballot for every game city play

3 how long before the match will we know if we are successful if the ballot. This will be useful to organise travel

4 if you are successful in the ballot and decide not to go weather it be last minute or you let the club know straight away will you be punished. Like some club’s do

5 will all“ticket point” just remain as they are and start up again in 21/22 season

cheers in advance if anyone can help on this
I can answer some of these.
1) It's not a choice of deferring or not. As far as we know from our discussions with the club, all season cards are deferred and all ballots will be on a match by match basis.
2) Not quite clear yet but I'd say see (1) above. No point entering people into a ballit if they either don't want to or can't go. But you won't lose your seasoncard if you choose to sit out the whole season.
3) Still talking about the details of the ballots so can't answer for certain but I'd guess around 2-3 weeks.
4) We've asked to the club to build in opportunities to return tickets. Depends what you mean by last minute. We're thinking something like 72 hours before a game being the deadline but it's early days in those discussion. With tickets being so scarce, if you have a ticket and don't use it then it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of sanction. Still to be decided exactly what that might be though.
 
The issue with this clearly is I might not win a ballot allllll season and Bert McBluemoon might win it every week.
 
I can answer some of these.
1) It's not a choice of deferring or not. As far as we know from our discussions with the club, all season cards are deferred and all ballots will be on a match by match basis.
2) Not quite clear yet but I'd say see (1) above. No point entering people into a ballit if they either don't want to or can't go. But you won't lose your seasoncard if you choose to sit out the whole season.
3) Still talking about the details of the ballots so can't answer for certain but I'd guess around 2-3 weeks.
4) We've asked to the club to build in opportunities to return tickets. Depends what you mean by last minute. We're thinking something like 72 hours before a game being the deadline but it's early days in those discussion. With tickets being so scarce, if you have a ticket and don't use it then it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of sanction. Still to be decided exactly what that might be though.

thank you
 
I can answer some of these.
1) It's not a choice of deferring or not. As far as we know from our discussions with the club, all season cards are deferred and all ballots will be on a match by match basis.
2) Not quite clear yet but I'd say see (1) above. No point entering people into a ballit if they either don't want to or can't go. But you won't lose your seasoncard if you choose to sit out the whole season.
3) Still talking about the details of the ballots so can't answer for certain but I'd guess around 2-3 weeks.
4) We've asked to the club to build in opportunities to return tickets. Depends what you mean by last minute. We're thinking something like 72 hours before a game being the deadline but it's early days in those discussion. With tickets being so scarce, if you have a ticket and don't use it then it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of sanction. Still to be decided exactly what that might be though.
Re: how long before the tickets are balloted and whether there are sanctions for not going. Has anyone discussed the “distance” some people travel and affect and difficulties this can create? I know there are people worse than me but I travel from Scotland and normally drive but get public transport over the winter months (driving is too risky and sometimes impossible due to the weather). At present trains have limited availability and finding out 2 weeks before a late November game may be too late to then buy the train ticket meaning you then risk driving which if the weather closes in may not be possible
 
If season tickets are going to be deferred until season 2021/22. The club should be sending out e-mails to all season holders. Telling them that this is what's going to happen. So that we alll know where we stand as regards this season.A

They should outline how to obtain match tickets on a match by match basis, if you will be looking to attend a match
 
If season tickets are going to be deferred until season 2021/22. The club should be sending out e-mails to all season holders. Telling them that this is what's going to happen. So that we alll know where we stand as regards this season.A

They should outline how to obtain match tickets on a match by match basis, if you will be looking to attend a match
Of course they'll do this once the details are finalised.
 

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