jimharri said:I did twig the username but, being the generous (read naive!) soul that I am, I was prepared to give the dirty hun the benefit of the doubt!aarond said:jimharri said:Hadn't heard that one before (must get out more!) but it is a pretty good description. Certainly of his last season with us. The previous few seasons he was absolutely colossal for us and was player of the season for 4 (?) consecutive seasons. In that last season though you were always watching him and wondering if he was going to do something silly. Didn't manage to catch the game today (work) but he was a giant in the Irish defence apparently. Well done RD and all the best for the future.
Are you sure that post wasnt intended as a sectarian comment?
;-)
Agreed. As I said, I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. If the comment was sectarian though, he can fuck off. We don't want any of that bullshit on here.aarond said:jimharri said:I did twig the username but, being the generous (read naive!) soul that I am, I was prepared to give the dirty hun the benefit of the doubt!aarond said:Are you sure that post wasnt intended as a sectarian comment?
;-)
Next to no posts gives it away on top of the name. NOT NEEDED on this forum. Couldnt give a SH1T what religion our players are.
Dunne was too good for the team he played in, then the team changed quickly and at his age he couldn't be a squad player. BUT, is he worse than Lescott? I dunno. Hope Savic is all that people write about him.
Never twigged that one myself must spend a bit more time with the Dudley Doright Handbook or it could be his/her lack of posts could be the fact he/her joined yesterday and you only think the worst of everybody.Wouldn't personally see anyone calling Dunney a bombscare waitin to happen as sectarian more a bit jokey.aarond said:jimharri said:I did twig the username but, being the generous (read naive!) soul that I am, I was prepared to give the dirty hun the benefit of the doubt!aarond said:Are you sure that post wasnt intended as a sectarian comment?
;-)
Next to no posts gives it away on top of the name. NOT NEEDED on this forum. Couldnt give a SH1T what religion our players are.
Dunne was too good for the team he played in, then the team changed quickly and at his age he couldn't be a squad player. BUT, is he worse than Lescott? I dunno. Hope Savic is all that people write about him.
i kne albert davy said:Never twigged that one myself must spend a bit more time with the Dudley Doright Handbook or it could be his/her lack of posts could be the fact he/her joined yesterday and you only think the worst of everybody.Wouldn't personally see anyone calling Dunney a bombscare waitin to happen as sectarian more a bit jokey.aarond said:jimharri said:I did twig the username but, being the generous (read naive!) soul that I am, I was prepared to give the dirty hun the benefit of the doubt!
;-)
Next to no posts gives it away on top of the name. NOT NEEDED on this forum. Couldnt give a SH1T what religion our players are.
Dunne was too good for the team he played in, then the team changed quickly and at his age he couldn't be a squad player. BUT, is he worse than Lescott? I dunno. Hope Savic is all that people write about him.
mad4city said:It's a terrible pity but, it needs saying, a tiny minority on here will never give him the credit he deserves because of his race.
mad4city said:I heard Paul McGrath tweeted that Dunne's was the best performance ever by any Irish centre half, "myself included".
He was dead right.
Now, I know the nay-sayers & the little-Englanders will be blocking their ears & singing la-la-la but suggesting that losing what, £10m between shipping him out and the vastly over-rated Lescott in (because 1 doesn't ring tills in China but the other apparently does) was good business is utter stupidity.
Dunne gave away so many og's & got red cards because he was too often the only defender awake, in the bad old days.
It's a terrible pity but, it needs saying, a tiny minority on here will never give him the credit he deserves because of his race.
mad4city said:I heard Paul McGrath tweeted that Dunne's was the best performance ever by any Irish centre half, "myself included".
He was dead right.
Now, I know the nay-sayers & the little-Englanders will be blocking their ears & singing la-la-la but suggesting that losing what, £10m between shipping him out and the vastly over-rated Lescott in (because 1 doesn't ring tills in China but the other apparently does) was good business is utter stupidity.
Dunne gave away so many og's & got red cards because he was too often the only defender awake, in the bad old days.
It's a terrible pity but, it needs saying, a tiny minority on here will never give him the credit he deserves because of his race.
mad4city said:Dunne gave away so many og's & got red cards because he was too often the only defender awake, in the bad old days.
ellspark said:No matter how well we do under this current set up at City, there will always remain a few regrets from how we handled the transition, and getting rid of Dunne was our biggest mistake and our biggest regret.
He was, and always will be a legend, and he didn't nothing but his best for us and that 95% of the time was magnificent and the difference, he was our driving force, our only sense of light in the dark. He dragged us out of situations that we had no business getting out of.
Ya that 5% of the time resulted in him making a stupid foul, or being unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But it was only because our pathetic defense at the time were in a permanent state of sleep. You do what you gotta do, and he did his best.
He was magnificent for Ireland, always has been, as was Shay Given.
But Dunne, he lead by complete example last night, and two moments summed him up, when he broke out of the defense with the ball, ran up the pitch, lost possession, and instead of sulking, giving up and feeling sorry for himself, he put his head down, ran back and won the ball back.
And the other moment was when he was booked, which was undeserving in my opinion, because he won the ball, he did what had to be done, despite the risk, and he paid the price bouncing his face off the ground and having to get the few stitches. Got up, no big drama, and off he went again, a few seconds later making an important tackle.
McGrath's tweet was one of the biggest accolades he could have received and it wasn't one big exaggerated.
Dunne was 100% loyal to us, and was our best player year after year after year, and then we got too big for our boots, and over night, too good for him, we wanted big bucks, big players, megastars, and Dunne wasn't part of that.
He could have made the transition had he been given a chance, but he wasn't a big enough star for City.
In this case we were disloyal to him, and it was in my opinion our biggest regret.
He was never short on courage, and while the Irish players aren't full of stand out talent, they never gave up, and their passion, courage and determination saw them through, they fight for each other, even mediocre players who were having poor games when going forward were all there throwing themselves in front of every ball, every tackle.
If only England have a tiny percent of that amount of heart.
But no, they spend their time bitching, moaning and trying to blame everyone else.
26 shots on goal, have you ever seen a team so completely dominated yet still go away with a result. Largely in thanks to Dunne and Given, who I heard described last night as the two Villa players keeping Ireland in the game, and that made me a little bit sad to hear that, they were two incredible leaders for us, who did nothing wrong, but we insisted that we outgrew them, that there were better, shinier, more expensive players to replace them with.
They are the old generation, and they will be incredibly missed when they leave the game, because at the end of the day, there are days when I would take 11 Richard Dunne's over the attitude of our bratty new generation players at times.
No matter what we win or how far we go with these crop of players, we wouldn't be where we are today had it not been for the service Dunne gave us.
And in my opinion, the treatment he received from the club was disgraceful and will remain our biggest regret.
One day he was City, a player who would get you our of the shittiest situation, and the next he wasn't a superstar, and that wasn't enough.
ellspark said:No matter how well we do under this current set up at City, there will always remain a few regrets from how we handled the transition, and getting rid of Dunne was our biggest mistake and our biggest regret.
He was, and always will be a legend, and he didn't nothing but his best for us and that 95% of the time was magnificent and the difference, he was our driving force, our only sense of light in the dark. He dragged us out of situations that we had no business getting out of.
Ya that 5% of the time resulted in him making a stupid foul, or being unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But it was only because our pathetic defense at the time were in a permanent state of sleep. You do what you gotta do, and he did his best.
He was magnificent for Ireland, always has been, as was Shay Given.
But Dunne, he lead by complete example last night, and two moments summed him up, when he broke out of the defense with the ball, ran up the pitch, lost possession, and instead of sulking, giving up and feeling sorry for himself, he put his head down, ran back and won the ball back.
And the other moment was when he was booked, which was undeserving in my opinion, because he won the ball, he did what had to be done, despite the risk, and he paid the price bouncing his face off the ground and having to get the few stitches. Got up, no big drama, and off he went again, a few seconds later making an important tackle.
McGrath's tweet was one of the biggest accolades he could have received and it wasn't one big exaggerated.
Dunne was 100% loyal to us, and was our best player year after year after year, and then we got too big for our boots, and over night, too good for him, we wanted big bucks, big players, megastars, and Dunne wasn't part of that.
He could have made the transition had he been given a chance, but he wasn't a big enough star for City.
In this case we were disloyal to him, and it was in my opinion our biggest regret.
He was never short on courage, and while the Irish players aren't full of stand out talent, they never gave up, and their passion, courage and determination saw them through, they fight for each other, even mediocre players who were having poor games when going forward were all there throwing themselves in front of every ball, every tackle.
If only England have a tiny percent of that amount of heart.
But no, they spend their time bitching, moaning and trying to blame everyone else.
26 shots on goal, have you ever seen a team so completely dominated yet still go away with a result. Largely in thanks to Dunne and Given, who I heard described last night as the two Villa players keeping Ireland in the game, and that made me a little bit sad to hear that, they were two incredible leaders for us, who did nothing wrong, but we insisted that we outgrew them, that there were better, shinier, more expensive players to replace them with.
They are the old generation, and they will be incredibly missed when they leave the game, because at the end of the day, there are days when I would take 11 Richard Dunne's over the attitude of our bratty new generation players at times.
No matter what we win or how far we go with these crop of players, we wouldn't be where we are today had it not been for the service Dunne gave us.
And in my opinion, the treatment he received from the club was disgraceful and will remain our biggest regret.
One day he was City, a player who would get you our of the shittiest situation, and the next he wasn't a superstar, and that wasn't enough.
wrongun73 said:for me our biggest mistake was selling shay given, the guy is, for me, the best keeper in he premiership, hart included.
i had a few pints last night with a very good friend of shay's and his family who is over here on holiday from donegal. he told me on very good authority, (from shay himself) that he was sold because cappello told mancini that hart would not play for england while shay was 1st choice so, taking age into account mancini decided to give hart the nod, knowing that the better keeper of the two would go.
The Fat el Hombre said:wrongun73 said:for me our biggest mistake was selling shay given, the guy is, for me, the best keeper in he premiership, hart included.
i had a few pints last night with a very good friend of shay's and his family who is over here on holiday from donegal. he told me on very good authority, (from shay himself) that he was sold because cappello told mancini that hart would not play for england while shay was 1st choice so, taking age into account mancini decided to give hart the nod, knowing that the better keeper of the two would go.
I'm pretty confident that Mancini would have taken much more than age into account when making that decision. Given is nowhere near a top keeper in the prem - great shot stopper but far too limited.
FantasyIreland said:A colossus who always gives nothing but his very best,we were fortunate to have had his services for such a period.
wrongun73 said:The Fat el Hombre said:wrongun73 said:for me our biggest mistake was selling shay given, the guy is, for me, the best keeper in he premiership, hart included.
i had a few pints last night with a very good friend of shay's and his family who is over here on holiday from donegal. he told me on very good authority, (from shay himself) that he was sold because cappello told mancini that hart would not play for england while shay was 1st choice so, taking age into account mancini decided to give hart the nod, knowing that the better keeper of the two would go.
I'm pretty confident that Mancini would have taken much more than age into account when making that decision. Given is nowhere near a top keeper in the prem - great shot stopper but far too limited.
its only opinions but for me the only better keeper since the premiership started has been schmeichel. its a shame he spent so long at clubs with not much chance of silverwear.
wrongun73 said:for me our biggest mistake was selling shay given, the guy is, for me, the best keeper in he premiership, hart included.
i had a few pints last night with a very good friend of shay's and his family who is over here on holiday from donegal. he told me on very good authority, (from shay himself) that he was sold because cappello told mancini that hart would not play for england while shay was 1st choice so, taking age into account mancini decided to give hart the nod, knowing that the better keeper of the two would go.