Richard Edghill Autobiography 'Once A Blue Aways A Blue'

Having read the first five chapters I can't say this is the most taxing of books. Some of the stuff is clearly not written from Edghill's recollections - stuff about what T shirts were being worn on the Kippax when Franny took over; some is just plain factually incorrect - losing to Cardiff in the League cup - it was the FA cup. And some utter nonsense that Edghill would never have known: City fans throwing Turkish Delight Bars at United fans after they'd lost to Galatasary - it might have been the thoughts of Dante Fiend/friend/whoever wrote/ghost wrote this, but I'd be astonished if Edghill had anything to o with such nonsensical claims. At worst it's a cut and paste from King of The Kippax. At best, it's a cut and paste from the MEN.
 
johnnytapia said:
Having read the first five chapters I can't say this is the most taxing of books. Some of the stuff is clearly not written from Edghill's recollections - stuff about what T shirts were being worn on the Kippax when Franny took over; some is just plain factually incorrect - losing to Cardiff in the League cup - it was the FA cup. And some utter nonsense that Edghill would never have known: City fans throwing Turkish Delight Bars at United fans after they'd lost to Galatasary - it might have been the thoughts of Dante Fiend/friend/whoever wrote/ghost wrote this, but I'd be astonished if Edghill had anything to o with such nonsensical claims. At worst it's a cut and paste from King of The Kippax. At best, it's a cut and paste from the MEN.


That's not nonsense, that is a fact! In the divide amongst the Kippax during the 2-3 home defeat this happened along with empty wrappers being waved. I was stood just below crazy corner for this game and remember it very well.
 
dante here who helped richard with the book.

cardiff in the cup is a mistake on my part...and i went to the game ! but i worked through the night a lot of time to complete it on time and even after proof reading i must have missed that. and i am stickler for facts. so bit fed up there.

other than that we are both very happy with the book. it works like this. a footballer plays so many games not all stand out. i watched richard throughout his career. i am there to jog his memory on stuff and bring out his thoughts. ie the derby when we were 2 up against utd and lost 3-2 what did horton say at half time? did the players actually believe they could go.on.and win? thats my input to bring out his memories of specific incidents.

the vast vast majority of the stuff in there will be his recollection. other stuff for example we mention how we're not really here started, we've added it in because it will be of interest to people. especially newer fans who weren't around when it started.

not only does edgy open out a lot about stuff behind the scenes and what he thought of some of the other players in the dressing room but his career was against the backdrop of City being a yoyo club. that's why we mention he played under so many managers under so many chairmen, so many divisions, so many promotions and relegations. he lived through that and so did we.

and playing against utd down the kippax side he could certainly feel the crowd. edgy has always had plenty of blue mates who would constantly tell him how the fans felt in those days.

he makes it clear some of the players tried some of them perhaps didnt try hard enough. and the fans felt the players werent trying. to get that admission from.a player at that time i think is important.

edgy also gets fed up like the rest of us with the media laying into City and makes note of the big attendances he played in front even in the 3rd tier.

it may.not be everyones cup.of tea but sales are going well already and the feedback we're getting is really positive.
 
Blue Streak said:
johnnytapia said:
Having read the first five chapters I can't say this is the most taxing of books. Some of the stuff is clearly not written from Edghill's recollections - stuff about what T shirts were being worn on the Kippax when Franny took over; some is just plain factually incorrect - losing to Cardiff in the League cup - it was the FA cup. And some utter nonsense that Edghill would never have known: City fans throwing Turkish Delight Bars at United fans aftr they'd lost to Galatasary - it might have been the thoughts of Dante Fiend/friend/whoever wrote/ghost wrote this, but I'd be astonished if Edghill had anything to o with such nonsensical claims. At worst it's a cut and paste from King of The Kippax. At best, it's a cut and paste from the MEN.


That's not nonsense, that is a fact! In the divide amongst the Kippax during the 2-3 home defeat this happened along with empty wrappers being waved. I was stood just below crazy corner for this game and remember it very well.
He isn't saying it didn't happen. He is saying Edghill would have been oblivious to it
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Blue Streak said:
johnnytapia said:
Having read the first five chapters I can't say this is the most taxing of books. Some of the stuff is clearly not written from Edghill's recollections - stuff about what T shirts were being worn on the Kippax when Franny took over; some is just plain factually incorrect - losing to Cardiff in the League cup - it was the FA cup. And some utter nonsense that Edghill would never have known: City fans throwing Turkish Delight Bars at United fans aftr they'd lost to Galatasary - it might have been the thoughts of Dante Fiend/friend/whoever wrote/ghost wrote this, but I'd be astonished if Edghill had anything to o with such nonsensical claims. At worst it's a cut and paste from King of The Kippax. At best, it's a cut and paste from the MEN.


That's not nonsense, that is a fact! In the divide amongst the Kippax during the 2-3 home defeat this happened along with empty wrappers being waved. I was stood just below crazy corner for this game and remember it very well.
He isn't saying it didn't happen. He is saying Edghill would have been oblivious to it

I shouldn't have thought he'd have been oblivious to the 'two nil up and fucked it up' chants though Phil. He's obviously as you state been told about what went on I agree. Another memory from that game was the Rags unveiling a Hereford Reds MUFC banner before the game to wave at us all and I had to laugh as all the Blues stood around me didn't have a clue were the fuck Hereford was?
 
wearethesouthstand said:
dante here who helped richard with the book.

cardiff in the cup is a mistake on my part...and i went to the game ! but i worked through the night a lot of time to complete it on time and even after proof reading i must have missed that. and i am stickler for facts. so bit fed up there.

other than that we are both very happy with the book. it works like this. a footballer plays so many games not all stand out. i watched richard throughout his career. i am there to jog his memory on stuff and bring out his thoughts. ie the derby when we were 2 up against utd and lost 3-2 what did horton say at half time? did the players actually believe they could go.on.and win? thats my input to bring out his memories of specific incidents.

the vast vast majority of the stuff in there will be his recollection. other stuff for example we mention how we're not really here started, we've added it in because it will be of interest to people. especially newer fans who weren't around when it started.

not only does edgy open out a lot about stuff behind the scenes and what he thought of some of the other players in the dressing room but his career was against the backdrop of City being a yoyo club. that's why we mention he played under so many managers under so many chairmen, so many divisions, so many promotions and relegations. he lived through that and so did we.

and playing against utd down the kippax side he could certainly feel the crowd. edgy has always had plenty of blue mates who would constantly tell him how the fans felt in those days.

he makes it clear some of the players tried some of them perhaps didnt try hard enough. and the fans felt the players werent trying. to get that admission from.a player at that time i think is important.

edgy also gets fed up like the rest of us with the media laying into City and makes note of the big attendances he played in front even in the 3rd tier.

it may.not be everyones cup.of tea but sales are going well already and the feedback we're getting is really positive.

Some fair points there Dante. But, and for me this is a huge thing - there's clearly a lot of it which seems to come from your recollections, not Edgy's. I followed City through thin and thinner during the years mentioned in the book and some of the things you've written are stretching things to put it mildly (Guvnors singing "We're not really here" - that's so patently nonsense. I know you go on to say that wasn't the true genesis of the song, but padding it out with stuff like that - not for me thanks.)

I know it's hard meeting deadlines, but some of the following are just factually incorrect:

Easter Bloc records? Eastern Bloc I know, but Easter Bloc? .
Paul Walsh scoring away at QPR - "the keeper's clearance went straight to him but he kept his composure and scored" - the keeper blasted the ball against him, he knew nothing about it as it sailed back into the net. Or are we thinking of different goals?
Kinkladze scoring against Villa and "half the North Stand ran on the pitch". Really? I was in the North Stand that day.
One nil away win at Wrexham - "scrappy goal from Wiekens" - I remember him burying a header straight from a corner. What do you remember?
Burnley 5-0 win, "Nash saved a pen when it was still 0-0" - City were already one up - Wanchope scored in 1st/2nd min. Their pen came after this.

I'm happy to be corrected if my memory isn't right.
 
stoke away on the friday night was a wiekens power header. wrexham i just recall it being a scrappy goal. i could be wrong i was probably drunk.

you've made your point now about the book and given your opinion. be grateful if you could let other people enjoy the book now.

richard is very pleased with it and is happy for the media to reflect on those other points surrounding the matches to be included which is why we have included them. uwe rosler said in his book there were 12000 blues at old trafford for the cup game when he lobbed schmeicel. our allocation was 6900. i have not heard anyone criticise his book for that and other slight imperfections.

richard is well up on some of the things that happened the origins of songs what the fans were up to. not only has he always had blue mates giving him updates he's also been round all the supporters branches time after time swopping tales. he also meets and greets the fans at home games. he did know about frozen turkish delight bars because it came up when we talked about that game. he might not have known it was happening during the game he certainly knew about it afterwards though. paul lake talks of paddling pools and other inflatables on the kippax. some of it he may of seen. at other times he would have been told what happened during the game. it was still included though because it was all relevant to that era.

and me and you might have done our time watching City but theres a host of other people who dont know some of these things and it is the first time they would have heard all the theories about how we're not really here started.

richard is friends with 1 or 2 of the old guvnors (rodney r) so actually he does know the score about a lot of what went on off the park.

lot of players at that time didnt care. he is saying he felt it like we all did. yeah i have paraphrased some of his thoughts but thats why the book is also a comparison between the club then and now.

burnley was definitely 5-1 though :)
 
I for one am looking forward to having a read of this, I was probably an 'Edghill-slater' in my younger days but am loving reading Uwe's book at the moment and have Andy Morrison's lined-up to go after that. Once that's done I'll been getting this one, he's a decent lad and a Blue so he'll get my support.
 
Plenty of mistakes in all football books I have read, even ones that check their football stats tend to get the off the pitch stuff wrong.
 

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