Rico Lewis and Oscar bobb

stonerblue said:
Pep gave Lewis a shiny new contract last season up until 2008
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I know you meant 2028, but if you think that means he will be here until then, I don’t know what to tell you. If someone comes in for him at a decent price, the contract will merely help keep the price up. Almost every player that ever leaves has time left on their contract. That’s how you get a fee for them!

Or, maybe Kalvin Phillips is going to have to stay for another 5 yrs after all???

P.S. I’m not saying I want neither of them to leave, as I like them both. I just wonder if they’re Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSG First XI players? That’s the standard we are at. I hope they rise up to meet it.
 
Love_Each_Day said:
The problem is they're both tiny and we already have a tiny lad in Foden that people want playing in the middle. Away at Villa is a glimpse of what happens when you have too many on the pitch at once. Don't rate Doku in the slightest so I'd give his game time to Blobb.
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“Don’t rate Doku in the slightest…. “

I think that puts you in a very small minority of City fans.
 
Beaker said:
Agreed, and having just watched Walker’s performance for England I think it’s time to let Rico play the right back role, stepping into midfield moving forwards.
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So... Why does Guardiola disagree with you...??

Your eagle eyes on Lewis' performances shows you he would have ousted Walker ( a very tired Walker for that matter) from the team in the latter stages of the season. What do YOU think Guardiola saw to stick with Walker on the right?

Maybe he realises Walker isn't going to get any quicker but, perhaps, he sees Lewis is not going to improve his speed nor his sense of positioning either. Bearing in mind Walker, in his declining years, is FAAAR quicker than Lewis at the crucial time.

Based on those options, who would you continue to pick?
 
Mike N said:
I think there’s a good chance both could have a long and successful career with us. I certainly hope so.
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With Savio coming I think Oscar could possibly do a Palmer. I see Rico here long term though. He's so versatile.
 
I don't understand why posters are taking Guardiola's words on players ability as something he means directly.

He's a manager. He's, acutely, aware of downplaying a player under his wing and what that would do for confidence or future accessibility mentally.

He's hardly likely to say 'yeah, he's not very good at x, y, z but other than that, he's great!'!

Even with Cancelo, the problem with him, to Guardiola, was not his ability and avoided speaking on that issue.

So, yes, he's going to blow smoke up all of his players arses as he manages a small team to perform and run through brick walls for him.

That doesn't mean that a long contract means they have plans for them, long term, but protecting the investment.

With that said, I think Bobb has the ability to reinvent where and how he plays in the forward line. Lewis is limited; he's certainly not a RB and as DM he'd be a liability, so AM is probably his calling.
 
Bill Walker said:
With Savio coming I think Oscar could possibly do a Palmer. I see Rico here long term though. He's so versatile.
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That’s a possibility but he doesn’t need to go anywhere yet. Palmer wanted away for a couple of years.

Pep really likes Bobb. Hopefully he will be happy to stay and learn from the best.
 
Mike N said:
I think there’s a good chance both could have a long and successful career with us. I certainly hope so.
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If the current window continues to quietly meander along it is highly likely they will play an important role moving forward.
 
The Colonel said:
There’s a very good footballer in Rico. I really hope he’s part of our future.
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He’s a very willing runner. The question is whether he has the brain to overcome his shortcomings, not the least of which is his height and strength on the ball.

Cue the David and Bernardo Silva references, but behave! If he was anything like either, no-one would wonder why he was barely on the pitch for the business end of the season.

As anyone knows from watching Pep’s teams for the last X number of years, it’s the head that is often the problem, because decision-making and movement within the system are basic requirements, esp in key positions where losing the ball can be very expensive.

I hope Rico progresses and fills out physically (even though I know he works out with his Dad), because I think he has the ability, as he matures, to become a vital squad player if he can nail down the mental requirements and couple them with some bite.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
He’s a very willing runner. The question is whether he has the brain to overcome his shortcomings, not the least of which is his height and strength on the ball.

Cue the David and Bernardo Silva references, but behave! If he was anything like either, no-one would wonder why he was barely on the pitch for the business end of the season.

As anyone knows from watching Pep’s teams for the last X number of years, it’s the head that is often the problem, because decision-making and movement within the system are basic requirements, esp in key positions where losing the ball can be very expensive.

I hope Rico progresses and fills out physically (even though I know he works out with his Dad), because I think he has the ability, as he matures, to become a vital squad player if he can nail down the mental requirements and couple them with some bite.
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Think it'll come down to his desire to play week in and out, he'll forever be a utility player here.
 
I love them both as players and at the age they are I hope there's a mutual patience. Rico has a versatility and nouse that will only grow. Bobb is so hungry, great movement, and has shown real flashes of brilliance. With it not panning out Delap and McAtee, Palmer gone and Borges gone, they are the best Academy hopes - and imo it's healthy for us to be using players we've developed, especially when they're from the area like Rico.
 
Being a 'jack of all trades, but master of none' is not going to help Lewis' cause to break in to the first team regular.

He's just a Manc 'Zinchenko' and we all know Zinchenko was never good enough to be a first teamer, but helped bail us out in a pinch. Zinny got about the same amount of games, give or take, as a starter on average.

Let's have it right.

Lewis, last year, enabled Walker to have a rest and solve his personal life issues.

That was it.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
If he was anything like either, no-one would wonder why he was barely on the pitch for the business end of the season.
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The reason he wasn't on the pitch so much, was more down to the fact we had a virtually fully fit squad, and were trying to win trophies. It's very hard to start in our team at the best of times, especially with everyone more or less fit, even Pep can only pick 11 players.
 
Bigga said:
Being a 'jack of all trades, but master of none' is not going to help Lewis' cause to break in to the first team regular.

He's just a Manc 'Zinchenko' and we all know Zinchenko was never good enough to be a first teamer, but helped bail us out in a pinch. Zinny got about the same amount of games, give or take, as a starter on average.

Let's have it right.

Lewis, last year, enabled Walker to have a rest and solve his personal life issues.

That was it.
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Rico is still 2 years younger than when Zinchenko first made a City appearance, and has already made 50 appearances.
 
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