Rise in violence towards UK police

[BobKowalski]

I cannot offer an argument to say what you did as being incorrect but would add, irrespective of political intervention, the mentality of individuals was different back then.

We knew right from wrong and were brought up to respect each other and in particular, your elders and anyone in authority. We didn't need laws or deterrents to understand and adhere to that.

It maybe seen by many as a controversial thing to say but imo, lack of parental control and example has played a huge part in the downfall of this country.

Sure, the majority are still law abiding and support and adhere the values we all want, but there is a shift towards a country spiraling in the wrong direction, and too fast for my liking.

Yes, before anyone asks, I am an old git

Personally, and also as an old git, I disagree. The past is an idyllic country which never really existed. It only exists in peoples memories. A bit like the blitz spirit which co-existed alongside rampant crime, a booming black market and a relaxing of morality because if you think you may get blown to bits tomorrow then why not have a bit of fun today.

If anything we are way too docile these days, where are the revolting students from the sixties or the workers taking to the streets like they did in the seventies? Nowadays students are crushed by student loans and the workers have forgotten how to protest or strike.

To be fair we do have BLM and Extinction Rebellion so all is not lost :)

 

[mosssideblue]

Personally, and also as an old git, I disagree. The past is an idyllic country which never really existed. It only exists in peoples memories. A bit like the blitz spirit which co-existed alongside rampant crime, a booming black market and a relaxing of morality because if you think you may get blown to bits tomorrow then why not have a bit of fun today.

If anything we are way too docile these days, where are the revolting students from the sixties or the workers taking to the streets like they did in the seventies? Nowadays students are crushed by student loans and the workers have forgotten how to protest or strike.

To be fair we do have BLM and Extinction Rebellion so all is not lost :)

It did exist in the 50s/60s. Joined the armed forces 72, so spent a lot of time away from uk

 

[BobKowalski]

It did exist in the 50s/60s. Joined the armed forces 72, so spent a lot of time away from uk

The fifties were drab, dreary and rationing. The sixties had flower power, hippies, with the older generation freaking out over the ‘youth of today’, and violent protests over Vietnam outside the US embassy. 1968 the whole world was on fire with riots, student protests and leaders like DeGaulle fleeing office.

In the past, things were always better, even when they weren’t.

 

[mosssideblue]

The fifties were drab, dreary and rationing. The sixties had flower power, hippies, with the older generation freaking out over the ‘youth of today’, and violent protests over Vietnam outside the US embassy. 1968 the whole world was on fire with riots, student protests and leaders like DeGaulle fleeing office.

In the past, things were always better, even when they weren’t.

Compared to today, I would say things were a lot better.

 

[BobKowalski]

Compared to today, I would say things were a lot better.

Well, we weren’t in a middle of a global pandemic then, nor facing rupture from the trading norms with our closest neighbours, so in that sense 2020 has been a bit of a washout.

 

[mosssideblue]

Well, we weren’t in a middle of a global pandemic then, nor facing rupture from the trading norms with our closest neighbours, so in that sense 2020 has been a bit of a washout.

I think you know I wasn't comparing this year specifically, but recent years.

Pandemic or not, respect for each other should always be there

 

[BobKowalski]

I think you know I wasn't comparing this year specifically, but recent years.

Pandemic or not, respect for each other should always be there

Yeah, it was a joke.

Although in thirty years time, old ‘uns will be tutting at young ‘uns about how back in the day the country came together during ‘Global Pandemic I’ and worked together, helped each and respected each other through social distancing and mask wearing etc., and how the ‘current generation just doesn‘t respect each other or society enough to do that’.

Nostalgia for the past is emotion based and you can’t reason with emotion.

 

[mosssideblue]

Yeah, it was a joke.

Although in thirty years time, old ‘uns will be tutting at young ‘uns about how back in the day the country came together during ‘Global Pandemic I’ and worked together, helped each and respected each other through social distancing and mask wearing etc., and how the ‘current generation just doesn‘t respect each other or society enough to do that’.

Nostalgia for the past is emotion based and you can’t reason with emotion.

Except, the country didn't come together in this time of need as the young uns didn't give a shit :)

 

[BobKowalski]

Except, the country didn't come together in this time of need as the young uns didn't give a shit :)

In thirty years time that is not how it will be remembered. Nostalgia is a powerful drug :)

 

[mosssideblue]

In thirty years time that is not how it will be remembered. Nostalgia is a powerful drug :)

You're Ying, I am Yang.

Lets leave it there