Rishi Sunak

Marlo said:
Does the Musk interview help the government? No

Does it help the Conservative party? No

Does it help the country? No

The only person it helps is him, he is already using the position of PM to shamelessly leverage his career post politics. This is using the highest office in the land to help him get back to Silicon Valley.

Apart from the debasement of a UK PM acting like a shit Joe Rogan, it makes a mockery of the narrative Labour are out of touch with ordinary people.
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Hopefully, Johnson, Sunak, Wanksock and a few others end up in arrowed overalls after the covid inquiry
 
mosssideblue said:
Hopefully, Johnson, Sunak, Wanksock and a few others end up in arrowed overalls after the covid inquiry
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I'd like to think it but they will mobilize bands of Lefty Lawyers to keep cases from court as long as they are alive which would be the final ironic footnote to their very existence
 
lloydie said:
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To be honest I quite enjoyed this interview. It's refreshing to see political leaders getting stuck into an issue instead of just retreating to politics because that bores the pants off me.

AI will become a massive issue over the coming decades, it makes sense for political leaders to engage.
 
inbetween said:
To be honest I quite enjoyed this interview. It's refreshing to see political leaders getting stuck into an issue instead of just retreating to politics because that bores the pants off me.

AI will become a massive issue over the coming decades, it makes sense for political leaders to engage.
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The leader of the nation sucking up to a potential real life very rich Bond villain isn't a good look.


"AI can be your best friend but it will remember every conversation you've had."

Confirms AI is a woman at least.
 
TinFoilHat said:
The leader of the nation sucking up to a potential real life very rich Bond villain isn't a good look.


"AI can be your best friend but it will remember every conversation you've had."

Confirms AI is a woman at least.
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I think it's a very good look because it's refreshing to see a political leader talk issues with someone who is going to be a leader within the field of the issue involved.

If you had a choice between watching this interview or watching it get debated by a set of clueless idiots in Parliament then which would you go for?
 
inbetween said:
I think it's a very good look because it's refreshing to see a political leader talk issues with someone who is going to be a leader within the field of the issue involved.

If you had a choice between watching this interview or watching it get debated by a set of clueless idiots in Parliament then which would you go for?
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Parliament, including interviewing Musk before a select committee. I’d also ask Musk why devaluing a recently acquired social media platform from $44b to $19b makes any sort of business sense.
 
inbetween said:
I think it's a very good look because it's refreshing to see a political leader talk issues with someone who is going to be a leader within the field of the issue involved.

If you had a choice between watching this interview or watching it get debated by a set of clueless idiots in Parliament then which would you go for?
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I'd go for parliament. Each party employs researchers to understand and debate any issues that affect the nation.

Sunak was fellating Musk begging him to take the UK side in his plan to use AI as a capitalist tool to enhance himself and othe oligarchs.

Musk knows this and will happily play along. He has all the power and will act the same with other nations whilst they beg and plead him to support them.

I'm some ways it's scary. Seeing nations pander to one man.
 
TinFoilHat said:
I'd go for parliament. Each party employs researchers to understand and debate any issues that affect the nation.

Sunak was fellating Musk begging him to take the UK side in his plan to use AI as a capitalist tool to enhance himself and othe oligarchs.

Musk knows this and will happily play along. He has all the power and will act the same with other nations whilst they beg and plead him to support them.

I'm some ways it's scary. Seeing nations pander to one man.
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Not just any man, but one who wants to rescue civilization from the “woke mind virus”. He seems like a good person to throw money at……
 
TinFoilHat said:
I'd go for parliament. Each party employs researchers to understand and debate any issues that affect the nation.

Sunak was fellating Musk begging him to take the UK side in his plan to use AI as a capitalist tool to enhance himself and othe oligarchs.

Musk knows this and will happily play along. He has all the power and will act the same with other nations whilst they beg and plead him to support them.

I'm some ways it's scary. Seeing nations pander to one man.
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Do you really think that Parliament is effective in debating the issues that affect the nation? Over the last 20 years we've seen the effective self-destruction of our political system. You have scandals such as the expenses scandal and multiple personal scandals. Parliament is not and in its current form never will be fit for purpose.

I'm more in favour of a technocracy where experts run everything for the better based upon facts and not the stupidities and opinion involved in politics. Imagine if transport experts ran the train network, or healthcare experts and doctors ran the NHS and decided its funding? God forbid such a thing!

With Musk it's not about pandering, it's about recognising the reality that he is going to be a powerful player in that field. If the UK wants an industrial strategy that involves AI then it'd be idiotic not to engage with him. I'm not interested in judging him based upon whatever brand of politics he supports, it's irrelevant.

It's ironic to mention AI as a capitalist tool given AI will naturally lead to a more socialist model. There isn't even a need for money in a world where everything is done for us.
 
BobKowalski said:
Parliament, including interviewing Musk before a select committee. I’d also ask Musk why devaluing a recently acquired social media platform from $44b to $19b makes any sort of business sense.
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Musk has not devalued Twitter. Twitter is not a public company anymore so there is no valuation, and it was never worth $44bn in the first place. Buying Twitter for $44bn is a mistake that he has openly admitted.

Inversely, has Musk overvalued Tesla at its current $500bn+ valuation? I bet you say yes, lol.
 
inbetween said:
Musk has not devalued Twitter. Twitter is not a public company anymore so there is no valuation, and it was never worth $44bn in the first place. Buying Twitter for $44bn is a mistake that he has openly admitted.

Inversely, has Musk overvalued Tesla at its current $500bn+ valuation? I bet you say yes, lol.
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Yes. As other car companies catch up and overtake Tesla, he’d better sell soon for top dollar, or watch the inevitable decline happen.
 
inbetween said:
Musk has not devalued Twitter. Twitter is not a public company anymore so there is no valuation, and it was never worth $44bn in the first place. Buying Twitter for $44bn is a mistake that he has openly admitted.

Inversely, has Musk overvalued Tesla at its current $500bn+ valuation? I bet you say yes, lol.
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Musk hasn’t devalued Twitter/X. It has only fallen in percieved value since he had acquired it.

When/where has Musk said buying twitter was a mistake? The most recent take he has is him saying he has saved civilization.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Yes. As other car companies catch up and overtake Tesla, he’d better sell soon for top dollar, or watch the inevitable decline happen.
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Seeing as inbetween is one of Musks biggest cheerleaders it’s probably a waste of anybody’s time or energy trying to offer up any criticism of him.
The fact he sees nothing wrong with this meeting tells me all I need to know of the character of the poster.
 
Phil1 said:
Seeing as inbetween is one of Musks biggest cheerleaders it’s probably a waste of anybody’s time or energy trying to offer up any criticism of him.
The fact he sees nothing wrong with this meeting tells me all I need to know of the character of the poster.
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I’d take his point more if Musk was interested in creating a better future. All Musk wants is his ego being massaged and the power to dictate who gets into the White House.
 
Phil1 said:
Seeing as inbetween is one of Musks biggest cheerleaders it’s probably a waste of anybody’s time or energy trying to offer up any criticism of him.
The fact he sees nothing wrong with this meeting tells me all I need to know of the character of the poster.
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Yeah I see nothing wrong at all with this interview, it was interesting and refreshing.

The rest of you can watch select committee meetings on the issue if you think that's more interesting I guess. I wonder which will gather more views.... Or any views at all?
 
Phil1 said:
Seeing as inbetween is one of Musks biggest cheerleaders it’s probably a waste of anybody’s time or energy trying to offer up any criticism of him.
The fact he sees nothing wrong with this meeting tells me all I need to know of the character of the poster.
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Why anyone likes Musk is beyond me. He’s as venal as Trump. I find it bizarre that people can be impressed by someone just for being hugely rich without taking into account the overall picture.
 
inbetween said:
Do you really think that Parliament is effective in debating the issues that affect the nation? Over the last 20 years we've seen the effective self-destruction of our political system. You have scandals such as the expenses scandal and multiple personal scandals. Parliament is not and in its current form never will be fit for purpose.

I'm more in favour of a technocracy where experts run everything for the better based upon facts and not the stupidities and opinion involved in politics. Imagine if transport experts ran the train network, or healthcare experts and doctors ran the NHS and decided its funding? God forbid such a thing!

With Musk it's not about pandering, it's about recognising the reality that he is going to be a powerful player in that field. If the UK wants an industrial strategy that involves AI then it'd be idiotic not to engage with him. I'm not interested in judging him based upon whatever brand of politics he supports, it's irrelevant.

It's ironic to mention AI as a capitalist tool given AI will naturally lead to a more socialist model. There isn't even a need for money in a world where everything is done for us.
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The paucity of debate in Parliament can be linked directly to the qaulity of sitting MPs. The amount of sex offences for a relatively small workplace is astonishing. Then there is the deliberate polarisation of the debate, the role of politican is to lead and bind a country together, the opposite is done cynically for monetary gain for a specific minority audience. Sadly Parliament has become a means of generating celebrity, Matt Hancock, JRM, Nadine Dorries, Lee Anderson, George Osbourne, Ed Balls, Rory Stewart, Boris Johnson, Dehenna Davidson. The amount of sitting MPs with TV gigs is disgraceful, the X factor, Big Brother reality TV Parliament.

As for Musk, can you imagine Biden, Clinton, George Bush, Putin, Xi, or even Thatcher behaving like this, the fawning sycophantic questions? The choice of Musk was a homage to celebrity and hoping his stardust will allow Sunak to position himself as a tech bro post his premiership. Musk is also not a impartial operator, at best he has serious questions to answer SEC stock manipulation and interference in global wars. There is two major wars raging on, why not meet a Nobel laurete prize winner? This was not about learning, it was the equivalent of sucking up to the cool kids at school and hoping everyone thinks you are one.
 
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