robin van persie (continued)

[NipHolmes]

I don't think you can put that down to tactical knowledge and decisions.

We battered them for the entire first half. The drama was all our own doing after a stupid mistake.

If Lescott hadn't headed the ball back they would never have gotten near us.

It won Chelsea the CL mate. QPR defended extremely well and balnked out our strikers for most of the game. I agree about Lescott, that Cisse goal really set us back.

the thing what O'Neil, Hughes and Moyes do is concentrate with the defense. they make them hard to beat and attack is always second priority. It's always a task facing such teams.

We dominated QPR, we dominated Sunderland (their place) and we fought hard even though we were lacklustre v Everton. We only got 3 points from those 3 games.

But the way it went against QPR wasn't down to them having a tactical game plan to stop us playing, and if it was then it didn't work until we brought it on ourselves, all im saying is that we weren't in trouble due to being outsmarted tactically.

Moyes and oneil I will give you when speak about building a solid defence - think Hughes has proved, especially with us that it really isn't one of his strong points

No offence but what the hell was he meant to do?

He came into that game needing at least a draw and he palyed for it. He played a 10 man defense with counters and it worked great. Man United in the second derby came to spoil and so did Everton and Sunderland.

Hughes is managing a championship team of many years with a few mercenary players added who came for pension contracts i.e Zamora and Cisse. He is doing his best with the team he had and I fully expect QPR to be a decent outfit next year. Remember my handle and come back to me on it, give me pelters next year if I am wrong mate.<br /><br />-- Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:35 am --<br /><br />

RSC, Bridge, Savic, Adebayor.

Take your pick :)

Can even put them in a nice ribbon and deliver as soon as this weekend. I work Sundays for important jobs.

Santa Cruz is still a City player? Bloody hell, didnt know that.

I'll pass on those, although Adebayor would help us it could never happen. Burned those bridges. I was thinking more like De Jong and Zabaleta haha.

Yeah mate he was loaned out to a South American team and then at Betis last year where he scored a pearler v Barca which I watched. Supposedly he wants to stay and they want to buy but they haven't much money so we will see. I think he has 2 years left?

Bridge too but he amy only have 1, not to sure on that pal.

But seriously I reckon only Milner, AJ, DeJong would be allowed to go apart from the names mentioned already. Zabba is here to stay and for a long time hopefully. Quality player and always gives his all. My fave City player.

 

[tomhawley]

I'm not saying he would be wrong to attempt to stifle us and get a draw.

I'm saying that the job he did of implementing that tactic failed - we scored in the first half and we were all over them with them under constant pressure for the entire first half.

It was only our shooting ourselves in the foot that let us down and gave them any kind of chance - we were cruising - the reason it got edgy was all down to ourselves rather than the opposition having an effect on our performance.

IMO obviously

 

[Stoned Rose]

Maybe Van Persie felt a little aggrieved that day when he shouted fuck-off to the South Stand and practically right in front of me.

I actually smiled. He had been kicked in the head by Adebayor and half the crowd were calling him a rapist.

He went on to score truly amazing goal and also hit the post with another.

We may have won the game that day but it could have ended-up 5-5.

last season, Van Persie scored a fucking incredible disallowed goal, chipping Joe at our place with hardly time to think.

It was ruled offside, but it wasn't for me.

Game changer is Van Persie, like Sergio, very few of them about.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I'm not saying he would be wrong to attempt to stifle us and get a draw.

I'm saying that the job he did of implementing that tactic failed - we scored in the first half and we were all over them with them under constant pressure for the entire first half.

It was only our shooting ourselves in the foot that let us down and gave them any kind of chance - we were cruising - the reason it got edgy was all down to ourselves rather than the opposition having an effect on our performance.

IMO obviously

The goal Zabba scored had an element of good fortune about it. QPR were doing ok. Then they scored, scored again with 10 men & almost got their point, against the best side in the country.

Don't know what else you would expect them to do.

 

[tomhawley]

The goal had an element of good fortune but it was fully deserved on the run of play.

I don't know how many times I have to say - I think that coming to us playing for a draw is perfectly acceptable.

What I disagree with is that the draw they almost got wasn't because of a superb game plan - if they game plan was to stop us and stifle us then it never even got a look in - from the first minute they were under pressure.

They almost got the draw from a ball up to nobody which Lescott misjudged - and a quality goal on the counter attach.

The way the game went forced their hand with regards the way they played - they didn't get their rewards for implementing the managers tactics perfectly. Infact in the end they couldn't even hold on to a draw that they could have needed in the end.

I think Hughes is a good manager at the level he is currently at - I am talking about this game in isolation.

I respect that you disagree but that's life and I don't really want to comment on it any more as I have work to do!

 

[BringBackSwales]

Why is he a horrible **** ?

van persie? Based mainly on his reactions to various goals against us at the Etihad, going back as far as the league cup win they had at our place when he was in their "B team", based on what I have read about him over the years; also I said cnut, not **** (but same thing really); by the way my main point was not his alleged horrible cnutishness, it is my fear he will go to the scum and make them a much more dangerous side.

You dont think he is a horrible cnut then?

Na I dont think he's a horrible **** for celebrating his goals against us I'd do the same tbh. All banter to me.

that's fair comment - one thing is for sure, he is a very decent footballer, I just do not see him as a priority - hard enough to bench 2 out of mario, sergio, carlos, edin and I cannot see rvp being happy with rotation, even if 1 of the current 4 leaves

 

[Neville Kneville]

The goal had an element of good fortune but it was fully deserved on the run of play.

I don't know how many times I have to say - I think that coming to us playing for a draw is perfectly acceptable.

What I disagree with is that the draw they almost got wasn't because of a superb game plan - if they game plan was to stop us and stifle us then it never even got a look in - from the first minute they were under pressure.

They almost got the draw from a ball up to nobody which Lescott misjudged - and a quality goal on the counter attach.

The way the game went forced their hand with regards the way they played - they didn't get their rewards for implementing the managers tactics perfectly. Infact in the end they couldn't even hold on to a draw that they could have needed in the end.

I think Hughes is a good manager at the level he is currently at - I am talking about this game in isolation.

I respect that you disagree but that's life and I don't really want to comment on it any more as I have work to do!

That's fair enough as I don't understand what point you are trying to make.

 

[allan harper]

The goal had an element of good fortune but it was fully deserved on the run of play.

I don't know how many times I have to say - I think that coming to us playing for a draw is perfectly acceptable.

What I disagree with is that the draw they almost got wasn't because of a superb game plan - if they game plan was to stop us and stifle us then it never even got a look in - from the first minute they were under pressure.

They almost got the draw from a ball up to nobody which Lescott misjudged - and a quality goal on the counter attach.

The way the game went forced their hand with regards the way they played - they didn't get their rewards for implementing the managers tactics perfectly. Infact in the end they couldn't even hold on to a draw that they could have needed in the end.

I think Hughes is a good manager at the level he is currently at - I am talking about this game in isolation.

I respect that you disagree but that's life and I don't really want to comment on it any more as I have work to do!

Fuck off work to do, more like your ice cream is melting on your strawberries

 

[NipHolmes]

I'm not saying he would be wrong to attempt to stifle us and get a draw.

I'm saying that the job he did of implementing that tactic failed - we scored in the first half and we were all over them with them under constant pressure for the entire first half.

It was only our shooting ourselves in the foot that let us down and gave them any kind of chance - we were cruising - the reason it got edgy was all down to ourselves rather than the opposition having an effect on our performance.

IMO obviously

See it like this mate.

QPR get battered by Chelsea 6-1 and then he makes ammends by tightening defense with the same team over next 2 legs with a 1-0 over Stoke and then holding us nicely in the last game.

It's not a view I will get praised for but I think they could have got the draw at 2-2 if they passed ball back instead of hoofing our end. They could have held possession and stifled us for the draw. They didn't so it's conjecture but never see it as failing. As a manager you look to improve, be it attack, midfield and/or defense. He did a great job at shoring them up following that Chelsea game, remember the pressure was on to keep them up!

 

[Burnage Burnsy]

Barcelona just became second favourites to sign him at 4/1 ahead of Juve.

Hope not.

We are now 4/7 from 1/3 earlier today.