bazamancity3
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let manure have him please we need SOME competition this season lol
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Utter bollocks. 20 goals in 23 games is a great record for the lad. He was playing in pretty mediocre team as well and to create and finish his own chances. He scored hat tricks against Ajax and FC Twente who are pretty much yearly champions league teams.VOOMER said:
Guidetti a very special talent and if we sell him we will no doubt regret it.
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Tueart1976 said:kiam06 said:
Let me introduce you to Chemical Alex :)
Brilliant.
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A tricky situation this.
He isn't worth 25m let alone 30m but I feel if he goes to Utd they'd have him and Rooney which would be a scary proposition and would pose us an extremely serious threat.
We need to stop that happening. Might have to bite the bullet on this and pay the required amount. If we had him we'd walk the league and be a very serious contender in the CL.
Sell Dzeko to balance the books.
He isn't worth 25m let alone 30m but I feel if he goes to Utd they'd have him and Rooney which would be a scary proposition and would pose us an extremely serious threat.
We need to stop that happening. Might have to bite the bullet on this and pay the required amount. If we had him we'd walk the league and be a very serious contender in the CL.
Sell Dzeko to balance the books.
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I wish someone would sign him... Getting sick of this thread.
As long as its us :)
As long as its us :)
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hgblue said:
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so with reports coming that arse want 30 mil and RVP saying that he wants 10 mil a year which basically counts as 198k a week for a 29 y/o in his last year of his contract. Do you still think that this would be a smart buy even for us who don't need a striker as of the moment?
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Nasri had just turned 25 when City paid that. RVP is 29, has a ridiculously bad injury track record, would be available for nothing in 12 months and has stated that he wants to leave - there is no way he is worth £30 million + huge wages. Arsenal are dreaming if they honestly think they'll get anywhere near that amount.carlos92 said:
And City's transfer policy should most definitely not be based around preventing our rivals from securing their own targets. If Mancini wants him because he honestly views him as a valuable addition to our squad then fine, but if he simply wants to stop him going to United (as some suggest) then he is out of his mind.
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It could be smart depending on what we'd do to balance the books.
RVP in at 'big money' and on big wages would be go It would also put Utd in their place and make a 'statement' to the rest of the prem/CL.
If we could offload Adebayor (big wage savings) and get 25m for Dzeko I'd consider that utterly superb business all round.
The idea of Aguero / RVP or Tevez / RVP is irresitable.
RVP in at 'big money' and on big wages would be go It would also put Utd in their place and make a 'statement' to the rest of the prem/CL.
If we could offload Adebayor (big wage savings) and get 25m for Dzeko I'd consider that utterly superb business all round.
The idea of Aguero / RVP or Tevez / RVP is irresitable.
love the 'Chemical Alex' photoshop!
The sad thing is the levels of delusion are comparable.
'Yes the Americans have taken over 70% of our country in 5 days but we will defeat them'
'Yes we finished last season empty handed and lost the league but City aren't a threat'
The sad thing is the levels of delusion are comparable.
'Yes the Americans have taken over 70% of our country in 5 days but we will defeat them'
'Yes we finished last season empty handed and lost the league but City aren't a threat'
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Dubai Blue said:
Saved me typing it mate, people seem to forget that rather major point....
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If that's his view, then fine (I did actually state that in my original post).hgblue said:
I was responding specifically to the people who seem to think that City should buy players simply to stop United getting them. In my opinion, that would be a ridiculous strategy to adopt, and I would imagine that Mancini and everyone else at City agree.
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Yes but he's a Cnut, injury prone one season wonder, too old etc etc etc.hgblue said:
Needs to be wearing blue and not red.
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I can't argue with that. There's no doubt United would be improved by signing RVP, but Stoned Rose said we should do all we can to stop that from happening. I don't agree; United are going to sign good players, it will happen and we can't allow ourselves to get sidetracked by that. Our focus should always be on improving our squad, not on preventing United from improving theirs.hgblue said:
I think that perhaps when considering the RvP situation - and I am sure others in the future -some posters do not give sufficient regard to :
i) Previously we had to be frivolous in expenditure to attract the players that would move us up several levels - as PSG are doing now
ii) That model is unsustainable and there has been increasingly a new model developing at top clubs, e.g. Barca, that takes advantage of player power. This sees agents being fully aware of what can be secured for the player - especially if the transfer fee is reduced - and therefore there is some ritual process where a player says they are off - the 'owning' club tries to drum up a market but the player already knows where they want to go to so declines some approaches.
Eventually, the player is off at a reduced (some might say realistic) transfer fee allowing the money saved to be used to fund the player package
iii) CITY are now in this bracket and with FFPR we need to be - Khaldoon has made a number of statements about us selectively targetting new players rather than some large influx of players - we need to play the proper strategy and let the process run its course.
iv) Few clubs can actually resist this - certainly not Arsenal so they will sell for less than £20m if they have to because they have failed to drive an auction. They will not allow him to run his contract down. The TWATS at playing these game are AC Milan - and they would normally succeed - only a club with CITY's financial muscle could / can afford to simply take a moral stance and say fuck off. Obviously they tried this with Tevez
v) Thankfully the club is not managing player recruitment in a manner to simply satisfy the impatience of fans on forums but will professionally play the right strategy to get the best result for the club. That might be in some cases to strike quickly and in others to let the process play out until it falls right for us
We are a very big club now and even the fans need to start thinking like that
i) Previously we had to be frivolous in expenditure to attract the players that would move us up several levels - as PSG are doing now
ii) That model is unsustainable and there has been increasingly a new model developing at top clubs, e.g. Barca, that takes advantage of player power. This sees agents being fully aware of what can be secured for the player - especially if the transfer fee is reduced - and therefore there is some ritual process where a player says they are off - the 'owning' club tries to drum up a market but the player already knows where they want to go to so declines some approaches.
Eventually, the player is off at a reduced (some might say realistic) transfer fee allowing the money saved to be used to fund the player package
iii) CITY are now in this bracket and with FFPR we need to be - Khaldoon has made a number of statements about us selectively targetting new players rather than some large influx of players - we need to play the proper strategy and let the process run its course.
iv) Few clubs can actually resist this - certainly not Arsenal so they will sell for less than £20m if they have to because they have failed to drive an auction. They will not allow him to run his contract down. The TWATS at playing these game are AC Milan - and they would normally succeed - only a club with CITY's financial muscle could / can afford to simply take a moral stance and say fuck off. Obviously they tried this with Tevez
v) Thankfully the club is not managing player recruitment in a manner to simply satisfy the impatience of fans on forums but will professionally play the right strategy to get the best result for the club. That might be in some cases to strike quickly and in others to let the process play out until it falls right for us
We are a very big club now and even the fans need to start thinking like that
I can't see City or Utd coming up with a fee big enough to justify Arsenal selling the player
It would make more sense for Utd to buy him as their striking options look a lot weaker than they have for some time, whilst we have 3 of the best forwards in European football, none of whom I'd swap for RVP. You could constuct an argument for trading Dzeko for RVP, because Dzeko is not the quick nimble striker that best suits City's game, but on the other hand it's always worthwile having a different type of striker on your books.
It would make more sense for Utd to buy him as their striking options look a lot weaker than they have for some time, whilst we have 3 of the best forwards in European football, none of whom I'd swap for RVP. You could constuct an argument for trading Dzeko for RVP, because Dzeko is not the quick nimble striker that best suits City's game, but on the other hand it's always worthwile having a different type of striker on your books.
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