super_city_si
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Now we know. Let’s get on with it. Rest up and heal Rodders.
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Rodri Injury Updates | City say ligament injury (pg117)
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Rammy Blue
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Yuk, same injury as me. It'll be a long road back for him.
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Van Dick says hello too. Loads of players come back from this fine.Ilkay was injured in 2017 and didn't really get a full run in the team till Fernandinho went down with 9 games left in 2019.
So that's hardly a track record where he's going to be playing 50 games next year in a top form.
Yeah i get that. But KDB is also a worry now. I think im with you, we need to find a system rather than just one body to replace Rodri. Hopefully lessons were learnt from the last time….Those three defeats in 23/24 were down to other factors beyond Rodri just not being there - a big issue was carrying on like Rodri was there when he wasn't. Villa especially. It's on Pep and the other lads to make sure we find a new system so that Rodri isn't missed as much this season. It's going to be a tough one but we're up for it.
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Rodders doesn’t have to rely on pace so he will be fine.Van Dick says hello too. Loads of players come back from this fine.
First thing first, let's all hope for a full recovery and forget the time scale and rushing it, just get well again
Now Pep/City should have worked on a replacement and even gone for the next best-holding midfield in the game
Yes nobody wants to be just a squad player and sit waiting to replace Rodri, But I feel if we had another type of player that could do the Rordi role he would get plenty of game time.
Gundogan Kovacic are not that type of midfield player, Yes they can play it to their best ability but the Rodri role is based on being a sort of central defender midfield player, it was an old-fashioned sweeper like Beckenbauer type role with the power to hold off players and be comfy on the ball.
I think John Stones is the closest to being that player but he's got far too many mistakes in him and can turn off
Pep will figure it out and Somebody will step up and make a little system switch and we will be right
Now Pep/City should have worked on a replacement and even gone for the next best-holding midfield in the game
Yes nobody wants to be just a squad player and sit waiting to replace Rodri, But I feel if we had another type of player that could do the Rordi role he would get plenty of game time.
Gundogan Kovacic are not that type of midfield player, Yes they can play it to their best ability but the Rodri role is based on being a sort of central defender midfield player, it was an old-fashioned sweeper like Beckenbauer type role with the power to hold off players and be comfy on the ball.
I think John Stones is the closest to being that player but he's got far too many mistakes in him and can turn off
Pep will figure it out and Somebody will step up and make a little system switch and we will be right
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Pointless and negative postYou think that random misfortune would cause a man who’s played a significant role in god knows how many trophies to look stupid ?
That is extremely stupid of you
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Must have been a partial tear of ACL but they’ve chosen to do the reconstruction now rather than risk a full rupture at a later date, otherwise there would have been no ambiguity over the prognosis.
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Those losses include losses at Arsenal and Villa right which will probably be losses with or without rodri. So take those two games out and we get to 91 points for the season. Looks fine to meJust having a look at our Premier League record without him since 21-22:
0-0 vs Southampton
6-3 vs Leicester
1-0 vs Brentford
6-3 vs Manchester United
1-2 vs Wolves
0-1 vs Arsenal
0-1 vs Aston Villa
5-1 vs Luton
2-0 vs Chelsea
4-1 vs Ipswich
3-1 vs West Ham
P11 W7 D1 L3
Over a full season that's P38 W24 D4 L10 (76 points)
The saddest thing about this, in my opinion, isn't that Rodri being injured might affect our title chances this season. We've just won four in a row, we'd just done the treble before that, etc. So a year without the Premier League title isn't going to hurt, exactly, is it? It's shit for Rodri but we'll be alright as a club and a team.
No, the saddest thing for me is that this feels like the end of an era. By the time Rodri comes back, regardless of what condition he's in for the 25/26 season, he'll be touching 30 and the team will have probably moved on a bit. By necessity, of course, but it will have probably moved on all the same - a new system, different key players.
It was like when Kompany had all those calf issues between August and December 2017, during the Centurions season. By the time he came back he was the wrong side of 30 and we didn't really need him in the same way anymore. We had Stones, Otamendi, and Laporte at CB and we got to 100 points without our captain.
He still got that big goal in 2019 against Leicester, but even that came in what was only his 12th Premier League start across the entire season. If all goes to plan in Rodri's absence, by the time he comes back he won't be the talisman or lynchpin he was between 2021 and 2024. He'll still have a big role, but it won't be at the same level.
The other thing that saddens me is that, pending the outcome of Pep's contract talks and the Premier League charges hearing, we might have just seen Rodri's last ever game under Pep and maybe his last ever game for City. Even if the charges hearing goes well and Pep stays, we might not see Rodri at his dominant peak ever again.
So yeah, titles aren't really what football's about for me, it's about the players and loving the team. And Rodri's given us everything we could have dreamed of. I really hope he's capable of another 2-3 year run at the top when he returns because if he's not then we might just have seen his best years go into the rear view mirror.
No, the saddest thing for me is that this feels like the end of an era. By the time Rodri comes back, regardless of what condition he's in for the 25/26 season, he'll be touching 30 and the team will have probably moved on a bit. By necessity, of course, but it will have probably moved on all the same - a new system, different key players.
It was like when Kompany had all those calf issues between August and December 2017, during the Centurions season. By the time he came back he was the wrong side of 30 and we didn't really need him in the same way anymore. We had Stones, Otamendi, and Laporte at CB and we got to 100 points without our captain.
He still got that big goal in 2019 against Leicester, but even that came in what was only his 12th Premier League start across the entire season. If all goes to plan in Rodri's absence, by the time he comes back he won't be the talisman or lynchpin he was between 2021 and 2024. He'll still have a big role, but it won't be at the same level.
The other thing that saddens me is that, pending the outcome of Pep's contract talks and the Premier League charges hearing, we might have just seen Rodri's last ever game under Pep and maybe his last ever game for City. Even if the charges hearing goes well and Pep stays, we might not see Rodri at his dominant peak ever again.
So yeah, titles aren't really what football's about for me, it's about the players and loving the team. And Rodri's given us everything we could have dreamed of. I really hope he's capable of another 2-3 year run at the top when he returns because if he's not then we might just have seen his best years go into the rear view mirror.