Rony Lopes

[BadApple]

So we have bought an average player like Delph to fill the quota when we could have just promoted Lopes. So dissapointed we are letting him go.

Delph is a totally different player to Lopes.

At the end of the day he did not want to sign a new contract and looks lile we have managed to get quite a good deal. I thought he could have made it, but at the end of the day he's not ready and any game time he would get is obviously not enough for him and to develop him to his full potential. I'm sure I read Monaco are going to loan him out straight away (says it all really).

If Monaco are loaning him straight out to me this proves he is not ready,if he cannot cut it at Monaco in a Sh*t league, how the hell on earth do people expect him to cut it at City.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

I've missed you x

I take it you'll just ignore my previous post.

Absolutely. I will follow your lead of ignoring selected facts to make my points.

 

[Matty]

My point is that they are both squad players not that they play in the same position

What good is a squad player who is so far away from playing time that he'd hardly get a game? Trying to compare Delph's chances of first team football, given he's an England international with several seasons of first team football behind him, with Lopes' given he's very inexperienced and having to compete with higher quality players for game time, really isn't a sound argument.

 

[Neville Kneville]

No, I was responding directly to NK about waiting till we are a few up to bring them on, that's not development imho, as its neither a challenge for the player, nor is it giving them enough time to develop.

Bringing players through is always a difficult business, especially when you throw money at a problem like we can, we'll get there, because the younger ones now, will know they have to get there earlier to stand a chance, the challenge is big, and none of those who have left us are yet playing at a top 6 European club, which suggests they were below the level we need.

Neither united or Liverpool seem to have really achieved that recently, nor chelsea or arsenal.

Yes they have, but they signed the kids from other clubs academies instead. Walcott, Oxlaide, Chambers, all came in as kids, Fabregas, even Danny Wellbeck got games as a kid, albeit for Utd, Januzai, Wilson, Blackett etc at rags. Sterling, Jordan Ibe, now Gomez has just played a very good game out of position for Liverpool away at Arsenal. Denayer is way ahead of him in development. But we can't 'risk' him doing the same at City ?

We are just taking the easy way out.

 

[blue banks]

Just having a guess but maybe it's Lopes that wants to go and city aren't prepared to let him leave next year on a free

That's obviously the case, but it's his motive for leaving which is disappointing some people (me included) on here. i.e., he reckons he's not going to get a shot in the first team.

 

[citysince88]

8.8 million though is not bad if you believe the MEN, plus I assume we'll have a buy back sell on fee clauses, so considering we don't really have the space in the squad for him it's probably best all round.

 

[pudge]

So we have bought an average player like Delph to fill the quota when we could have just promoted Lopes. So dissapointed we are letting him go.

You do realise Lopes would not be HG?

As well as there being no quota to "fill".

 

[cleavers]

The academy hasn’t just started, it’s been going for a long time.

Yes and it produced Youth Cup winning sides, and occasional players into a team that was generally bereft of talent until 2010 (even the first couple of years after the takeover we were short on genuinely talented players).

SWP was the only player who made it to the top from the old academy, other than Richards who we kept, you might argue Sturridge too, but he was never a regular at Chelsea, and has ended up in upper mid table with Liverpool.

That was why they did a complete overhaul of the academy, why Cassell was moved sideways, and ultimately parted company with us, along with a number of others. The real overhaul started in 2010, and Platt Lane/Carrington were replaced by what we have now, because they weren't capable of producing the talent, and why I say that we have just started.

 

[pudge]

Absolutely. I will follow your lead of ignoring selected facts to make my points.

So you ask a question which is personally abusive but don't want to see it answered?

That would fall under trolling which is against the CoC. Perhaps if you read back you would also realise the point I argued against was ability wise, not the length of their contract. No facts were ignored.

 

[tonea2003]

It wouldn't be an occasional subs place if he played well, it would be that for a while, then a cup game, then a starting place in some league games, then we would get rid of a senior pro to use Rony. If on the other hand, he couldn't make an impression, he would go.

This is how it is done, in most of the football world.

its good job pellegrini sees it differently