Rony Lopes

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Every player has a price. 8 plus million sounds good to me. We are not being run by idiots here.

 

[Neville Kneville]

its good job pellegrini sees it differently

No it isn't. It is him who is out of step with most other clubs not my post which is wrong.

That is how it is done & still is to this day. It is happening right now in the Premier League & across Europe. City & Chelsea are two of the only clubs who hardly ever do it. Pretty much everyone else does.

 

[Glauber Berti]

At the end of the day, However much we'd have loved him to stay on and develop here If he wasn't going to sign a new contract I'd rather get some money for him now than waltz out the door on a free in 12 months time. People on here are acting like it's our choice to sell him, like we're actively trying to push him out the door, I'm sure that we don't want him to leave and have done everything within our power within reason to keep him but we are just trying to make the best of a bad situation and get some money whilst we can

 

[BadApple]

No it isn't. It is him who is out of step with most other clubs not my post which is wrong.

That is how it is done & still is to this day. It is happening right now in the Premier League & across Europe. City & Chelsea are two of the only clubs who hardly ever do it. Pretty much everyone else does.

Out of step with most other clubs who don't win anything or qualify for the champions league?

 

[Neville Kneville]

At the end of the day, However much we'd have loved him to stay on and develop here If he wasn't going to sign a new contract I'd rather get some money for him now than waltz out the door on a free in 12 months time. People on here are acting like it's our choice to sell him, like we're actively trying to push him out the door, I'm sure that we don't want him to leave and have done everything within our power within reason to keep him but we are just trying to make the best of a bad situation and get some money whilst we can

Can't disagree with that.

My question is why we failed to make him think we were a viable place for him to continue as a fotballer & how we stop that happening to others.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Out of step with most other clubs who don't win anything or qualify for the champions league?

Every major club in Europe.

Find me one club who has failed to bring though a young player into their squad/team. Just one.

Over to you.

 

[BadApple]

Can't disagree with that.

My question is why we failed to make him think we were a viable place for him to continue as a fotballer & how we stop that happening to others.

Well We have Silva, Nasri and maybe KDB anybody with half a brain cell would make a decision based on that alone.

 

[tonea2003]

No it isn't. It is him who is out of step with most other clubs not my post which is wrong.

That is how it is done & still is to this day. It is happening right now in the Premier League & across Europe. City & Chelsea are two of the only clubs who hardly ever do it. Pretty much everyone else does.

because they haven't the depth of squad we and chelsea have, what i mean by that is 2 players per position
albeit they haven't played yet either denayer or kelchi have been in each of the squads this season

 

[BadApple]

Every major club in Europe.

Find me one club who has failed to bring though a young player into their squad/team. Just one.

Over to you.

Chelsea

Back to you.

 

[pudge]

Here ya go @BlueDeadHead, expand your mind instead of being a sad, little troll.

"This was [most of] the post I made with regards to the academy when people were foaming at the mouth at Otamendi signing;

Given all the team predictions for WBA and expectations of individual players, some drastically need to scale back their own expectations of the EDS and academy in general.

There will not be an influx of graduates to the first team each and every season. Right now we seemingly have a "golden generation" to some extent, for lack of a better term. Lopes, Denayer, Iheanacho even the likes of Evans. That may not seem like a lot but that's more than most clubs can expect to bring up and realistically challenge for a first team squad spot. Even then "graduating" to the first team doesn't mean they've "made it" it's just another step in their development to train with world class players, not play every week.

The academy won't produce a superstar every season. You invest in youth be it a 10, 12, 14, 16 or 18 year old in the hope they'll make it never the expectation that they will.

Our academy is one of the best possible places for a player to develop and make it in football. Be that for us or someone else; Trippier, Mee, Facey, McGivern, Logan etc all have legitimate careers in football despite very little if any first team experience with us. Our youngsters won't just look at our first team and think "I'll never get in there, I'm off" because there's not a straight turn over of 11 for 11 from the EDS to the first team every year. They'll want to be in the best environment to develop and perhaps make it elsewhere, and take advantage of City's connections and go on loan akin to Denayer, Lopes and Rekik who all got a move to Champions League teams. How many youth team players around the league get those chances? They're realistic. Yes they will sign for us in the hope they can play for one of Europe's biggest teams but they'll also realise they're in one of the best possible to develop and carve a career out elsewhere.

I understand Denayer perhaps wanting to go elsewhere, on loan I would imagine if he's fifth choice this season. For most clubs they have one Denayer, that one prospect that they promote at a time. Plenty thought Rekik would be starting for us by now. However, those saying to close the academy (over dramatic on purpose I imagine but genuinely said today) youth doesn't stand a chance are beyond stupid and/or have ludacris expectations. If City can produce one legitimate first team player or squad player every other year or so we're laughing. If they can produce players capable of commanding decent fees for decent teams then even more so. This current crop are an anomaly that has seemingly skewed people's expectations.

In this instance I personally feel Lopes has shown more than enough to merit a chance and again believe that he's not only capable of getting a match here and there but also taking that chance with both hands. Which is why I find it disappointing, I don't find that an unrealistic expectation.

Yes he's gotten a great move but Lopes is/was one of our prospects primed for the first team imo and it's sad to see how it's played out."