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[Rodenberger10]

I'm surprised that anyone thinks Hughes is "building for the future".

In my humble opinion, nothing could be further from the truth!

In reality, Hughes has to achieve next season, top 6 MINIMUM, probably top 4, so he's going to have to fill his squad out with Premiership experience and battle hardened players (ala Barry and RSC, Tevez?).

He can't take risks, he can't buy bargains, he can't take a flyer on some exotic star... he NEEDS a flying start and challenging from day one.

Hughes knows this is his last throw off the dice and I think we can expect more of the same this transfer window.

Toure... Lescott... Bentley... if he could get Warnock, Samba, Pederson and Tugay in he's be like a pig in shit!

Unquestionably there's a lot of truth in this: Hughes primarily wants players with proven Premier League ability and experience. Bit of a shame in some ways as I would like to see us buying more players who fall into the category of 'next generation of world stars'.

They are both really good points, and it's often easy to forget that managers and fans often gon't have the same agenda, if you asked any supporter if they would take a crap year next season for a major success the following season they would say yes. However, if you asked a manager, if it was going to cost him his job then he would give up that chance.

What Hughes is doing is simple... This summer he will shave the squad right down and bring in quality players a level up from what we have brought in before (bar Robinho), then next year we will have the base to to get 2 or 3 top world class players who can then get us into the top 4. I think with the purchases of RSC, Barry and Lescott etc Hughes will expect to get top 6 which is realistic. He is most definately building for the future and you can see this in every player he brings to the club.

 

[Balti]

If he recreates his best form at Blackburn and stays fit then he will be a bargain. The money is not an issue for us. The quality of our acquisitions is though. I hope to see him as challenging for a place rather than being an automatic starter. He will get my full backing in The Shirt regardless.

 

[simon23]

If he recreates his best form at Blackburn and stays fit then he will be a bargain. The money is not an issue for us. The quality of our acquisitions is though. I hope to see him as challenging for a place rather than being an automatic starter. He will get my full backing in The Shirt regardless.

agreed

if we have Boj rsc bellamy, tevz and eto'o that would be a great set of forwards

two issues......1 will we get eto'o and tevz

2....injury worries with bellamy and rsc

 

[lionheart]

rsc 18 mill, jo 19 mill, bellamy 14 mill = 51 million, not good value for money imo

torres 25 mill, podolski 10 mill, henry 10 mill, and still have change would of been a better investment, just a thought.

Please get your facts right. We paid 12m for RSC, only 6m for Jo and 9m for Bellamy...any extras depend on appearances and goals. As for Torres, he would cost over 40 million...

 

[chesterguy]

rsc 18 mill, jo 19 mill, bellamy 14 mill = 51 million, not good value for money imo

torres 25 mill, podolski 10 mill, henry 10 mill, and still have change would of been a better investment, just a thought.

You are having a laugh. First of all Jo was nothing to do with Hughes. If you believe that Torres can be bought for £25m then you are living in cloud cuckoo land he wont go for less than 40/50m which is the reputed figure for David Villa.

The thing is Hughes is looking for players who know the premiership because for every foreign player that has made it there are 3 other who havent and understanably he doesnt want to take any risks.

To many people on here have played football manager and think they know about managing a football team you dont. The proof will be seen in the results. If they are not good Hughes will be sacked if they are then alot of people on this site wont know what to do with themselves as they wont be able to whinge (how stupid of me course they will they will be moaning that we arent winning 5-0 or arent playing the best football the world has ever seen)

 

[Rösler's Dad]

First time, I've posted on this thread and too be honest I bet it's full of idiots saying what a complete twat hughes is etc.etc. I think it's a great signing, look at him in his first season, he was awesome every chance he got he scored. Have we got a natural goalscorer? No, well now we have. He might have been so injured last year because he didn't go through Hughes' gruelling training pre-season. I reckon he'll get him back in shape an he'll be quality.

But his overall record doesn't justify his price tag. Thats what im pissed about.

Ricster what do you have to say to this taken from mancityfans?

RSC's record inc sub appearances is apparently. P:235 Goals: 67 rate 1 goal per 3.507 which apparently is shite

RIG's statistics probably missing sub appearances & some lesser games give him 59 goals in 159 games which apparently is shite (that's 1 goal per 2.69 games)

Neil Young for City: p 334 goals 86= 1 per 3.883

Apparently Neil Young was shite.

Wyn Davies:

Newcastle 216/ goals: 53 1 per 4.075 Shite
City 45/8 1 per 5.6

No wonder we bought Marsh, Wyn Davies was shite.

Joe Royle for City : 99/23 1 goal per 4.3 shite.

Nicolas Anelka pre City:

PSG: P10 Goals 1
Arsenal: P65 Goals 23
Real: P19 Goals 2
PSG: P39 Goals 10
Liverpool: P20 Goals 4

Total 153/40 1 goal per 3.82 games

Why did we sign Anelka? He was obviously shite! 1 decent season for Arsenal! 4 in 20 games for Liverpool!! He'll never do it in the PL!!

Can you all do me a favour (Dennis Bergkamp 11 in 52 for Inter by the way)

When any of you decide to quote your clever statistics to show whether we should sign a player or not, instead, print them out & stick them up your arse.

PMSL!

Great find, Svennis...:0)

 

[Bazzmand Show]

rsc 18 mill, jo 19 mill, bellamy 14 mill = 51 million, not good value for money imo

torres 25 mill, podolski 10 mill, henry 10 mill, and still have change would of been a better investment, just a thought.

To be fair Liverpool got Torres cheap because up until he had joined them, whilst showing flashes of brilliance he never really was as prollific as he has been for liverpool. Also from what I understand he only wanted to join Liverpool in the premier league, hence why they didnt have much to compete with. Henry cheap because at the time he left Arsenal, whilst hes been good for Barca he has definetly seen his best days, at the height of his powers he wouldve commanded upwards of 35-40 million. Podolski....... Id rather Santa any day of the week.

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

If he recreates his best form at Blackburn and stays fit then he will be a bargain. The money is not an issue for us. The quality of our acquisitions is though. I hope to see him as challenging for a place rather than being an automatic starter. He will get my full backing in The Shirt regardless.

agreed

if we have Boj rsc bellamy, tevz and eto'o that would be a great set of forwards

two issues......1 will we get eto'o and tevz

2....injury worries with bellamy and rsc

I think, in fairness you have to add Bojanov to that last group too.

 

[bluebrandon]

facts are right the fees i qoute are based on appearances and they should not be bought if we think we would not need to pay these amounts, also torres joined liverpool for 25 mill and we had the chance then.

 

[bluebrandon]

podolski record of goals per game is far superior in germany than rsc, and in germany most people would probably tell you podolski is a far better player than rsc was.