Rotherham child abuse scandal

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And the local MP says

As a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I didn't want to rock the multi-cultural boat says former Rotherham Labour MP Denis MacShane

 

[stonerblue]

And i think assuming every Pakistani male is a rapist is as racist as it gets. That's what you wrote isn't it?

He didn't actually write that no. Read it again. Obviously every criminal has a profile and if witnesses cone forward to say the perpetrator was Asian then that's were you look. If the witness says the perpetrator had one leg then no one with two legs would be under suspicion.

This isn't being racist it's taking evidence from witnesses to narrow your search

He doesn't quite get the obvious.

The abusers were Pakistani so he objects that we should start looking for Pakistanis who committed these crimes.

The mind boggles at the thought of this non belief of the victims.

OK, i'll try this one last time;

Dazdons sentence - 'Because these monsters haven't been caught and brought to book i'm assuming every Pakistani male of raping age is a candidate and that's where the investigation should start'.

Now if we were talking about a paedophile ring with a majority of suspects described as 'English' would you write;

'Because these monsters havent been caught and brought to book i'm assuming every Englishman male of raping age is a candidate'

 

[BlueBearBoots]

I'm sure when push comes to shove, this case will end up being more about mysogyny than it is about Muslims or the British Pakistani community. It's about men who treat women like a piece of meat. This goes on all over the country in all communities. I was listening to a tattooed moron dressing his poor wife down in asda car park today. I thought yeh, I bet she just loves her weekly pissed up semi rape with you! This issue is about men lording it over women and authority's being complicit in it. Nothing more, nothing less.

PS.

For the record. Ba ba rainbow sheep never happened,

Black boards turned to white boards because of technology changing

And

Christmas wasn't banned in Birmingham

This is the most pathetic post on this thread, are u seriously comparing the rape of 1400 young girls to some guy who had an argument with his other half, and then accuse him of being a rapist.
This is not an issue of men lording over women, it is an issue of children being gang raped, and this does not go on in every community all over the country, but as we are hearing far too often it goes on all over the country in the Pakistani community...

Happens in Pakistan and India a lot too or the media seem to report it a lot.

 

[dazdon]

He didn't actually write that no. Read it again. Obviously every criminal has a profile and if witnesses cone forward to say the perpetrator was Asian then that's were you look. If the witness says the perpetrator had one leg then no one with two legs would be under suspicion.

This isn't being racist it's taking evidence from witnesses to narrow your search

He doesn't quite get the obvious.

The abusers were Pakistani so he objects that we should start looking for Pakistanis who committed these crimes.

The mind boggles at the thought of this non belief of the victims.

OK, i'll try this one last time;

Dazdons sentence - 'Because these monsters haven't been caught and brought to book i'm assuming every Pakistani male of raping age is a candidate and that's where the investigation should start'.

Now if we were talking about a paedophile ring with a majority of suspects described as 'English' would you write;

'Because these monsters havent been caught and brought to book i'm assuming every Englishman male of raping age is a candidate'

I think you're having reading problems.

If a victim described someone as white with a strong Yarkshoire accent then i'd expect some sort of investigation that centres on that and that every yarkshoire man would be a suspect.

In this case 1400 young victims of abuse were abused by an over whelming majority of PAKISTANI men.

Can't you read?

 

[stonerblue]

stonerblue seems on a mission to cast you as a racist

On the BBC One news, one of the victims has given an interview and she said it all. Both the perpetrators and the officials who covered it up should be investigated and face the consequences.

People with stoners views facilitated this mess in the first place.

Pointing silly fingers and missing the obvious.

To be fair nobody is really listening to him shouting in an empty room.

what the fuck are you saying

 

[waterloo blue]

The flag bit is true... The plod asked our niece to take the flag down as it was offending the polish neighbours

She did

I would have asked for something in writing

So is the nursery rhyme part

Ok, well as sceptical as I am whenever I hear these stories, I'll be diplomatic and say there may possibly have been isolated incidents where the police have ASKED someone to remove a flag. And there might have been the odd school that have changed the words to Ba Ba black sheep.

But the way you phrase it is implying far from isolated incidents, these practices are common place or even natonwide. Which they certainly are not by any stretch of the imagination.

Isolated they may be but still totally unacceptable in a tolerant society (unless this reverse racism is in play)

It's all about perceptions

Another legit instance, in my 22 years in the RAF I saw two black tradesmen promoted because of their colour.....

One made an appointment with the Air Officer Commanding the Group we were part of for a chat about promotion and why he has stagnated as a Cpl for so long........ he never got the interview but did get the promotion the same month

Another guy was working in the paint shop at RAF Valley on Anglesey, his Father immediately after a promotion board (when the lad was not selected) came to camp to see the Station Commander, he had a letter asking why his son had been overlooked....... In 6 weeks his son was promoted (by the way, the lad was not only junior but a shite tradesman)

I may be coming across as prejudiced, I am absolutely not! We are however a nation of bottlers when it comes to this subject

I wish (on this one occasion only) that we were more like the Aussies

If you start to overthink these situations you begin to avoid conflict , avoid dealing with simple issues and that makes the difficult challenges (such as the point by the OP) impossible to deal with...........

I'm out

What the fuck would you know about Australia?,apart from some shite you read on Facebook saying that the Prime Minister(Gillard,Abbott,Howard) had told immigrants to assimilate or leave.
It's never happened and never will;endemic child abuse is a subject of a Royal Commision at the moment mainly involving local government care homes,the catholic care homes,Dr. Barnado's and even the Sal Joss.
The police and the social service's management are complicit in the abuse and the Pakistani male has once again been shown again to be exploiters of young vunerable girls(Rochdale,Oxford).

 

[Bluemanc100]

Ok, well as sceptical as I am whenever I hear these stories, I'll be diplomatic and say there may possibly have been isolated incidents where the police have ASKED someone to remove a flag. And there might have been the odd school that have changed the words to Ba Ba black sheep.

But the way you phrase it is implying far from isolated incidents, these practices are common place or even natonwide. Which they certainly are not by any stretch of the imagination.

Isolated they may be but still totally unacceptable in a tolerant society (unless this reverse racism is in play)

It's all about perceptions

Another legit instance, in my 22 years in the RAF I saw two black tradesmen promoted because of their colour.....

One made an appointment with the Air Officer Commanding the Group we were part of for a chat about promotion and why he has stagnated as a Cpl for so long........ he never got the interview but did get the promotion the same month

Another guy was working in the paint shop at RAF Valley on Anglesey, his Father immediately after a promotion board (when the lad was not selected) came to camp to see the Station Commander, he had a letter asking why his son had been overlooked....... In 6 weeks his son was promoted (by the way, the lad was not only junior but a shite tradesman)

I may be coming across as prejudiced, I am absolutely not! We are however a nation of bottlers when it comes to this subject

I wish (on this one occasion only) that we were more like the Aussies

If you start to overthink these situations you begin to avoid conflict , avoid dealing with simple issues and that makes the difficult challenges (such as the point by the OP) impossible to deal with...........

I'm out

What the fuck would you know about Australia?,apart from some shite you read on Facebook saying that the Prime Minister(Gillard,Abbott,Howard) had told immigrants to assimilate or leave.
It's never happened and never will;endemic child abuse is a subject of a Royal Commision at the moment mainly involving local government care homes,the catholic care homes,Dr. Barnado's and even the Sal Joss.
The police and the social service's management are complicit in the abuse and the Pakistani male has once again been shown again to be exploiters of young vunerable girls(Rochdale,Oxford).

I'm Australian........



Well no I'm not actually I was born in Middleton but I do know that the Australians enforce a strict "buy into our lifestyle or fuck off " policy (or do you think that this philosophy is manufactured? I must have seen a hologramme of the Oz PM standing up and making a statement on it I guess) and that is what I am saying.

As one like minded individual said in this thread, would he take the flag down, would he fuck.... Neither would I

For the record I don't' do Facebook

I try not to read "shite" apart from your two footed lunge of a post

But I do believe that you give somebody a long enough leash, they will run rampage, that is what is happening and that is what I'm saying

Deal with the smaller issues or you have zero fucking chance for these problems

Get it?

 

[dazdon]

stonerblue seems on a mission to cast you as a racist

On the BBC One news, one of the victims has given an interview and she said it all. Both the perpetrators and the officials who covered it up should be investigated and face the consequences.

People with stoners views facilitated this mess in the first place.

Pointing silly fingers and missing the obvious.

To be fair nobody is really listening to him shouting in an empty room.

what the fuck are you saying

Read my fucking post.

Or just continue to shout racist at every given opportunity.

Busy ****

 

[johnny on the spot]

The report on Newsnight is pretty harrowing. Apparently the frontline social worker who discovered the first sign of all this in 2001 was permitted by her superiors to write to senior SYP officers, who arranged to meet her at their HQ. There she was told to shut the fuck up and never mention it again, before being suspended for gross misconduct.

Without trying to go all tin foil hat time, anyone inclined to conspiracy theories might raise an eyebrow about the timing of these revelations and the fact that the South Yorkshire Police were behind the raiding and questioning of Cliff Richard, being subsequently hauled before the Select Committee to answer questions about the conduct of that investigation.

 

[brass neck]

Just be careful of a little knowledge and dangerous agenda


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BTW

The vast majority of all the stuff spouted about "tough" Australia is horse shit spin devised by a pretty nasty character called Lynton Crosby. He very successfully played on some narrow minded fears with great success. He is now masterminding the Torys election campaign so watch out for some dramatic reactionary bull shit about all of this from Cameron very soon!