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Then he's talking shite. No difference in people, the cops just treat them differentlyM22 WOODHOUSE PARK said:
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Rugby Fans are brought up better
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Rugby league is the working class.Rugby union is the upper class.But then again i dont have a scooby about rugby!!
Rascal said:The one thing that really pisses me off.
The Etihad could be full of rugby fans and they would be allowed to have a beer at there seat. A football fan cant even have a beer if he can see the pitch at Cheadle Town.
How fucking ridiculous is that.
Not could, it was full of rugby fans allowed to drink in their seats a few months ago. To be fair though, that's not the police or City's decision. It's the law.
We were also allowed to go out for a cig and come back in as often as we wanted.
Don't know anything about Rugby League, other than it bores the shite out of me. So, I'll exempt that lot from my comments:
With a few spots honourably excepted (Limerick, most of Wales, maybe parts of the English midlands too) Rugby Union, in these islands, seems to attract mainly middle-to-upper class types. It is only fair to say, that your average working class chap would not be rebuked if he attempted to join a club outside of those areas but, it's hard to fit in when you're say, a factory worker and everybody about you is a professional enjoying a more expensive lifestyle. So, the working classes are often pretty much priced out of joining their local Rugby Union club.
Another thing, that nobody involved with Rugby Union that I know will deny, is that there is still an old-school snobbery amongst the selctors. This hasn't gone away with professionalism, rather it has evolved into a subtle bullying of younger players into changing to more elite schools/clubs.
Say what you like about Association Football but if you're good enough, you'll get picked. Nobody gives a f**k if you're a docker or a doctor; just what you can do on the field.
Yeah, there's more dickheads following football but only because football is the all-inclusive game and the others (generally speaking) are not.
With a few spots honourably excepted (Limerick, most of Wales, maybe parts of the English midlands too) Rugby Union, in these islands, seems to attract mainly middle-to-upper class types. It is only fair to say, that your average working class chap would not be rebuked if he attempted to join a club outside of those areas but, it's hard to fit in when you're say, a factory worker and everybody about you is a professional enjoying a more expensive lifestyle. So, the working classes are often pretty much priced out of joining their local Rugby Union club.
Another thing, that nobody involved with Rugby Union that I know will deny, is that there is still an old-school snobbery amongst the selctors. This hasn't gone away with professionalism, rather it has evolved into a subtle bullying of younger players into changing to more elite schools/clubs.
Say what you like about Association Football but if you're good enough, you'll get picked. Nobody gives a f**k if you're a docker or a doctor; just what you can do on the field.
Yeah, there's more dickheads following football but only because football is the all-inclusive game and the others (generally speaking) are not.
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It's a class thing, end of story.
Though it surprises me that rugby tends to attract a higher class of person because to me it's the most ugly thuggish sport around bar boxing.
Though it surprises me that rugby tends to attract a higher class of person because to me it's the most ugly thuggish sport around bar boxing.
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tidyman said:Rascal said:The one thing that really pisses me off.
The Etihad could be full of rugby fans and they would be allowed to have a beer at there seat. A football fan cant even have a beer if he can see the pitch at Cheadle Town.
How fucking ridiculous is that.
Not could, it was full of rugby fans allowed to drink in their seats a few months ago. To be fair though, that's not the police or City's decision. It's the law.
We were also allowed to go out for a cig and come back in as often as we wanted.
Yes, i know its the law
But how can a law really discriminate on what sporting events you can drink or nip out for smoke at.
Yet we football fans, a vast overwhelming majority of us who are decent law abiding citizens are denied this right because of the sport we watch.
Well I have a season ticket at city and warrington so what am I? On Saturday between 12.45 and 3 I will be a thug and then become a model citizen when I go to watch the grand final at 6pm?
In all seriousness there is far less venom between rugby supporters but it does kick off - Featherstone fans would give Leeds a run for their money in terms if thuggery.
In all seriousness there is far less venom between rugby supporters but it does kick off - Featherstone fans would give Leeds a run for their money in terms if thuggery.
Rascal said:tidyman said:Rascal said:The one thing that really pisses me off.
The Etihad could be full of rugby fans and they would be allowed to have a beer at there seat. A football fan cant even have a beer if he can see the pitch at Cheadle Town.
How fucking ridiculous is that.
Not could, it was full of rugby fans allowed to drink in their seats a few months ago. To be fair though, that's not the police or City's decision. It's the law.
We were also allowed to go out for a cig and come back in as often as we wanted.
Yes, i know its the law
But how can a law really discriminate on what sporting events you can drink or nip out for smoke at.
Yet we football fans, a vast overwhelming majority of us who are decent law abiding citizens are denied this right because of the sport we watch.
Reputation is a hard thing to shake off. Football has a history of hooliganism and still has idiots regularly willing to cause trouble if the opportunity arises. Maybe in the future, but the authorities aren't going to take any chances.
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It's limited to 80 minutes, you fight for that time then buy whoever you hit a beer. It's a gentlemans sport.Johnsonontheleft said:It's a class thing, end of story.
Though it surprises me that rugby tends to attract a higher class of person because to me it's the most ugly thuggish sport around bar boxing.
I don't have the answer but it may be part of the reason that in my opinion, your average rugby league fan is far more knowledgable about the game than your average football supporter. I know blokes who have been watching football for over half a century and don't know any more than the rudiments about the game.
I'd say if you had to name one difference between the supporters of both sports, it would be that football fans support a team and rugby fans are fans of the sport primarily, whist obviously supporting a team too.
There will be fans of every Super League club and many other clubs at Old Trafford on Saturday. That doesn't happen at football. I've been in pubs where fans of Wigan and St Helen's, who supposedly "hate" each other, have been boozing all day before a grand final, without a hint of an atmosphere. Just imagine if that could have happened round Wembley before the semi- final? Hundreds of City and United fans in the same pub for over 6 hours?
Not a chance.
I'd say if you had to name one difference between the supporters of both sports, it would be that football fans support a team and rugby fans are fans of the sport primarily, whist obviously supporting a team too.
There will be fans of every Super League club and many other clubs at Old Trafford on Saturday. That doesn't happen at football. I've been in pubs where fans of Wigan and St Helen's, who supposedly "hate" each other, have been boozing all day before a grand final, without a hint of an atmosphere. Just imagine if that could have happened round Wembley before the semi- final? Hundreds of City and United fans in the same pub for over 6 hours?
Not a chance.