When we had a scrum on their 5 yard line, both their second rows went down, but he just ordered a reset - then gave them a dubious penalty, despite them turning in. I'm not surprised that Antoine Dupont criticised O'Keeffe.
Small margins...
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Small margins...
Or allow play to continue...Scrums are almost impossible to ref. 16 blokes and you have to pick one who caused it to fall or spin.
hilts
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The vast majority of penalties in rugby union are for technicalities at the breakdown. It often needs the right replay to show what it's for.
A former ref said there are usually about 15 offences leading to a breakdown. If they blew for everything the game woukd never go anywhere. They have to basically ignore a lot of stuff they see(will obviously miss stuff as well) and ref in a different kind of way.
It's seems a really hard sport to ref tbh.
meltonblue
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If anyone can explain that last scrum penalty then I’m all ears?
Congrats South Africa, bomb squad did what it does but England bullies that Bokke pack for long periods and the game was won on a ref’s call.
Great final next week to look forwards to.
It was a great kick from Pollard too. Agree it was harsh, I do think SA would have fashioned a scoring opportunity anyway though.
mancity2012_eamo
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Ref calls in the scrums.I like you but no, it really wasn’t.
Game swung on ref calls, nothing more.
You lost the scrums. Quite a lot.
Most calls, I haven’t a clue why, but you were forced off the ball on your own scrum and forced up on quite a few too.
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That is the one change I'd make. Just let the scrums collapse. Only call a pen if it's blatant and persistent. Otherwise just play on. Tactical scrums to earn pens is shit to watch.Or allow play to continue...
Ref calls in the scrums.
You lost the scrums. Quite a lot.
Most calls, I haven’t a clue why, but you were forced off the ball on your own scrum and forced up on quite a few too.
No worries.
Pointless as an Englishman trying to argue anything other on here with fans of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
mancity2012_eamo
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Not surprised.A former ref said there are usually about 15 offences leading to a breakdown. If they blew for everything the game woukd never go anywhere. They have to basically ignore a lot of stuff they see(will obviously miss stuff as well) and ref in a different kind of way.
It's seems a really hard sport to ref tbh.
Rules are so technical.
mancity2012_eamo
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I was the only one actually on your side in here tonight.No worries.
Pointless as an Englishman trying to argue anything other on here with fans of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
meltonblue
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No worries.
Pointless as an Englishman trying to argue anything other on here with fans of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
I’m a Wales fan and I agreed with you I thought the last one was harsh :)
The game didn’t just swing on the refs calls though, the subs changed the game.