Rugby World Cup 2023

I think thats a bit unfair to the SA pack replacements.

The scrum has two purposes:
either to get secure ball, getting quick ball while half the players are in one place giving space elsewhere, etc
or to force the opponent scrum into conceding a penalty - this can be either to deliberately stymie the first point or just because they're overpowered.

SA bring four scrummaging props - England's replacements couldn't acclimatise to their opposition. England going back to the old men of Marler and Cole probably says a lot about their replacements; I've not really thought that Sinckler could take on the best props.

Behind the front row, Chessum is a big lump but rarely seems to have a notable effect, and Vunipola hasn't looked like an elite player for some years (and allowing for the long injury).

I also don't think that taking Mitchell off for Care at scrumhalf helped. Unless it was injury, why take the 9 off with half an hour to go?

I think they have to stop giving so many scrum penalties. They are often incredibly difficult to call and we don't want a game dominated by scrum penalties, we want attractive attacking rugby which South Africa are capable of playing. England made them turn to the set piece, but errors started to creep in late on.
 
I think they have to stop giving so many scrum penalties. They are often incredibly difficult to call and we don't want a game dominated by scrum penalties, we want attractive attacking rugby which South Africa are capable of playing. England made them turn to the set piece, but errors started to creep in late on.

I agree - it tends to distort the score that you can get 3 pts from something 50 yards from goal (or more). Unfortunately as was said: reduce the value and get more infringements; teams will find ways to subvert the regs.

In the last year or two, they have reduced some scrum offences to freekicks (early engagement is one I think), but after 2-3 it tends to go back to a penalty for repeated infringement.
 
Anyway.
Moving on.
Cmon New Zealand.

There is something about that SA team that I really don’t like.
They are very good at what they do but always strike me as arrogant and quite practiced in the dark arts.
Yep,that little twonk Faf de Clerk annoys the shit out of me for some reason
 
I see one of the Boks has been accused of making a racist comment during the game. The comment wasn't picked up, but the complaint about it to the referee by Tom Curry was caught on the ref's mic. And the Bok player apparently wouldn't shake hands with Curry at full time. South African rugby are investigating the matter.
 
I see one of the Boks has been accused of making a racist comment during the game. The comment wasn't picked up, but the complaint about it to the referee by Tom Curry was caught on the ref's mic. And the Bok player apparently wouldn't shake hands with Curry at full time. South African rugby are investigating the matter.


Nothing to see here, move the fuck on :)
 
It was a great game of rugby... England deserved something but with a heavy kicking game it was obvious as the match played on, a kick was going to win this tight tie.

Like it or not the Springboks have played their part in the 3 best games of the WC..

3.Ireland
1.France
2.England
 
Quite possibly. We'll see. If Curry has made a false allegation, he needs the book throwing at him. That's a serious accusation he's made.
Curry was heard on the ref’s mic during the game saying ‘if their player calls me a “white ****” again, what should I do?’.
 

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