Russian invasion of Ukraine

[urban genie]

He’s been parroting Russian propaganda since this thread began and has had to constantly get debunked and corrected. A month ago he was defending Putin and having to get corrected before the war even began.

Then we had to go through his complete ignorance about how trump wouldn’t let it happen.

Yesterday he thought we shouldn’t be so keen to help out Ukraine because it’s full of neo nazis, and had to have it explained that the only reason he knew about the Azov group that makes up 0.025% of fighters on the Ukrainian side was because it was propaganda.

Obviously he had no idea about Russias 6,000 strong neo-nazi Wagner group they’ve sent in because wherever he’s getting this propaganda didn’t mention it.

True the wagner group are massive cunts with neo nazi members, the shit they have gotten up to in several Africa countries particulary is sickening, never mind their actions in syria and Ukraine in 2014.

As for the Azov, I hve been aware of them for years and they are also a load of nazi cunts that should never have been allowed to become an official battalion of the Ukrainain army or grow in number.

All I am saying all views should be allowed and debated, if they are too nuts then ignored or dismissed, the poster though should be treated with respect at the same time, sometimes a good debate can change a mindset, a slagging off won't

 

[BobKowalski]

‘Putin has stated no need for martial law and destruction of Ukraine’s military infrastructure is nearly complete.’ @meduza_en

He was talking to an trainee air stewards conference or something.

Getting Monty Python vibes here...

 

[Phil1]

You should give the anti-EU rhetoric a rest for once. Or do it on the politics forum.

Hes a sad ****.

 

[flook]

This isn't a conflict of communism versus capitalism.

I don't believe I said it was. The original post was in two parts, I replied to both. Perhaps I should have made that more clear

 

[kaz7]

86 million pounds raised here also endless donations , well done the uk

 

[Bazzmand Show]

To be fair, I don't think we should be tarring all troops with the same brush.

There are conscripts, regular troops, battle experienced troops and bloodthirsty Wagners.

If you were called up tomorrow and sent to fight in the Ukraine by the British Army, would you get there and simply refuse an order to take part in an offensive or shoot back at those shooting at you?

Careful there mate, this might make people actually have to have a think about the situation and we don't want that.

 

[domalino]

True the wagner group are massive cunts with neo nazi members, the shit they have gotten up to in several Africa countries particulary is sickening, never mind their actions in syria and Ukraine in 2014.

As for the Azov, I hve been aware of them for years and they are also a load of nazi cunts that should never have been allowed to become an official battalion of the Ukrainain army or grow in number.

All I am saying all views should be allowed and debated, if they are too nuts then ignored or dismissed, the poster though should be treated with respect at the same time, sometimes a good debate can change a mindset, a slagging off won't

The problem, and why people get annoyed is this.

Poster 1 - here's my opinion/article that says this.

Poster 2, 3, 4, 5 - Oh that's actually not true, here's a long, sourced comment explaining why.

Poster 1 doesn't reply or acknowledge at all.

Poster 1 (12 hours or 2 days later) - Here's my unchanged opinion and another incredibly dubious source I found that agrees with me.

1150 pages in people get bored of it from the same half dozen posters and recognise that they aren't trying to have a debate, or learn more.

 

[flook]

Yeah, we are going to find out in the coming decades that capatalism has a tipping point - you know all those resources that we keep destorying for it?

They have a finite life span.

OK so only capitalism uses resources, thanks for clearing that up. Lets just check that shall we

Largest user of coal - China https://www.iea.org/reports/coal-information-overview/consumption

Largest user of oil - USA followed by China https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oil-consumption-by-country

Highest percentage of renewable energy - Germany, then UK, in fact the top 10 are all capitalist pigs err countries https://www.smart-energy.com/renewa...h-the-highest-proportion-of-renewable-energy/

You didn't try and defend your "There are no bad guys" comment I see

 

[flook]

And why did we avoid war when it wasn't two capitalist blocs in Europe?

You know the answer to that you cheeky chappie, but staying on topic, do you dispute there is a "bad guy" in this war?

 

[flook]

Relevance?

Captalism works on an economic principle of constant growth, it is not in anyway sustainable.

The whole system needs re working and I am not talking about transtitioning to communism.

probably for another thread, but what ARE you suggesting transitioning to then?