Russian invasion of Ukraine

[JASR]

Yesterday’s summary

Ukrainian forces carried out several successful counterattacks west of Kyiv retaking the towns of Moshcun and Makariv. No mention of campaign reported yesterday around Irpin, Buch and Hostomel. This map shows that Ukrainian forces might be cutting off the most southerly part of the Russian arm around Kyiv. Irpin, Buch, and Hostomel is the bit closest to the north west of Kyiv so would make sense for Ukrainian forces to counter, encircle and remove that threat.


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Ukrainian forces successfully repelled several attacks around Luhansk and Donetsk

Russian forces continue to dig in and likely will now just shell cities rather than take on Ukrainian forces in the field.

Russian forces continue to slowly erode Mariupol resistance.

There is talk that Russia has failed to appointment an overall commander for operations in Ukraine leaving units and military districts competing for resources which is adding to the supply chaos

Institute for the Study of War

Russian forces did not make any major advances on March 22 and Ukrainian forces conducted local counterattacks northwest of Kyiv and around Mykolayiv. Russian forces around Kyiv and other major cities are increasingly prioritizing long-range bombardment

www.understandingwar.org

Drawing some broad strokes:
Ukraine holding and repelling Russian advances, due to multiple reasons.
Russian strategy changed to holding what they have gained and bombing/artillery/rocketry the hell out of the urban areas.

clearly ukraine has had a lot of close range anti-vehicle weapons, that have achieved a lot.
What they now require is medium/long range weapons that can take out the artillery, and air defence ones for any flying bomb droppers (if Russia is deploying them?). There’s not much they can do against cruise missiles and other rockets launched from Russia/Black Sea.
I wonder how many offensive drones they have left.

 

[SWP's back]

You're really not getting this are you? They have been begging for help for 8 years and we did as little as possible until their cities were reduced to burning ruins. Everyting we're sending now should have been there years ago. Everything we can't send because maybe that's too close to joining the war and Putin might be unhappy should have been there years ago.

Worth noting that the main reason so many buildings are now rubble is due to shelling and ground launched missiles rather than overwhelming air superiority that could have been prevented with enhanced SAM capabilities.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Can't we just agree that Jonson's comments were crass and insensitive AND that the UK has been doing what it can to help/support the Ukranian military?

+many

 

[Blue Mist]

You’re confusing two different things. One is now one is when this is over. The first France making cars or not makes little difference in the big sanction picture. The second one France will take the lead. Whether anyone thinks they should is irrelevant to the UK becpcause the UK has locked itself out.

Please read the article in the Daily Telegraph. They will not resume car production AFTER the invasion. They are resuming production NOW.
Just as the French parent company of Decathlon are expanding Russian trade to capitalise NOW on the void left by other decent companies who have withdrawn.

 

[Elbow beards]

Pilot writes fuck putin using his plane over Poland, seen on flight tracker. Now that is one hell of a way to do the poznan!!


Edit: ha, just noticed the cock and balls as well.

 

[Blue Mist]

You think that's enough? You're actually proud of that?

We didn't give them any weapons or air defences to stop the mass murder of civilians, but we (along with Canada and the US) trained about 15,000 troops (of their 200,000 strong army).

You dont like this country do you.

 

[blueparrot]

Please read the article in the Daily Telegraph. They will not resume car production AFTER the invasion. They are resuming production NOW.
Just as the French parent company of Decathlon are expanding Russian trade to capitalise NOW on the void left by other decent companies who have withdrawn.

You are still mixing 2 very different things together.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

You dont like this country do you.

Funnily enough that's the exact same rhetoric Putin uses to demonise his opponents.

The right to dissent is one of the key things the Ukrainians are fighting for.

 

[dave_blue12]

An Air Commodore (retired)

 

[metalblue]

Drawing some broad strokes:
Ukraine holding and repelling Russian advances, due to multiple reasons.
Russian strategy changed to holding what they have gained and bombing/artillery/rocketry the hell out of the urban areas.

clearly ukraine has had a lot of close range anti-vehicle weapons, that have achieved a lot.
What they now require is medium/long range weapons that can take out the artillery, and air defence ones for any flying bomb droppers (if Russia is deploying them?). There’s not much they can do against cruise missiles and other rockets launched from Russia/Black Sea.
I wonder how many offensive drones they have left.

I think that is largely correct mate although they do have anti missile systems and have shown themselves to be effective to an extent. Ukraine is also using its more offensive weapons like drones efficiently by taking out supply vehicles rather than the armoury itself - these are far less well protected. A rocket launcher with no rockets is just as ineffective as a destroyed one. I think they continue to receive drones but there aren’t that many.

But at some point they need to be able to strike at the weapons themselves and defend their airspace better than they currently can. The new high altitude anti aircraft missile systems being reportedly sent along with anti missile systems should go some way to helping them. Add in them pushing back Russian forces from effective artillery range then they can hold this pattern for some time. If they can get what’s left of their airforce up and controlling the skies then it’ll only be a matter of time before they turn back this Russian invasion.