Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Scottyboi]

Their boast, some weeks ago, of having gained it in its entirety is now a hollow one. Just like most of their boasts.

When was that posted? I have never seen anyone claim Luhansk had been fully captured.

 

[mat]

I think @AlfGreyruinedmyday meant the Russians, no?

His comments prove he's still ruining blues day.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

This thread has lost any kind of reasoned debate.

If you try you're automatically branded as being a stooge of Putin by identifying facts that don't sit with the propaganda narratives.

Couldn’t agree more.

Asking questions on the Ukraine war does not make someone a Putin sympathiser, as doesn’t:

Asking questions on the Covid response make someone a Covid denier, as doesn’t:

Asking questions on Net Zero make someone a climate change denier.

But having just one narrative and blindly sticking to it, no matter what, is somewhat pointless and the largest denial possible.

This last bit is exactly the orthodoxy the government and business wish to promote as, if we’re arguing with each other, they’re off the hook and if we’re ‘looking over here’ they’re busy enacting stuff ‘over there’.

 

[Elbow beards]

Their boast, some weeks ago, of having gained it in its entirety is now a hollow one. Just like most of their boasts.

I'm confused now, are you claiming the Russians were boasting or the Ukranians?

 

[Scottyboi]

I'm confused now, are you claiming the Russians were boasting or the Ukranians?

Reading it back he must mean the Russians as they always make boasts about shit that hasn't happened. Like destroying all the HIMARS.

 

[Bilboblue]

Reliable source:

 

[lee_wsm]

Wonder if the Ukrainians are getting any help with someone leaking Russian info hence the fast progress. Maybe someone in Russia needs putin to look a fool when crimea gets taken back

 

[BlueAnorak]

Day 195 Review: Verifiable progress.

Ukraine Invasion Day 195: counteroffensive is making verifiable progress in the south and east

There still is an air war that is largely stalemated in terms of air-to-air combat but demonstrates the strengths of air defenses amid a ground offensive that will require increased air support. “ Ukraine's air force...continue(s) flying and impose(s)...

m.dailykos.com

 

[Scottyboi]

Wonder if the Ukrainians are getting any help with someone leaking Russian info hence the fast progress. Maybe someone in Russia needs putin to look a fool when crimea gets taken back

They forced Russia to reinforce Kherson and have now trapped them in, which means Ukraine can attack the now weaker parts of the frontline. Clever move, sooner Russian soldiers realise they have nothing to fight for and are nothing but cannon fodder the better.

 

[AlfGreyruinedmyday]

I take it you're a Russian sympathiser?

Before the gallows are fully erected.

The exact opposite is true.

Explanation 1.
On July 4th it was reported that Luhansk province had been occupied in its entirety by the Russians.
Yesterday, the Ukrainians re-entered Luhansk.
Ipso facto, the Russians' boast that they had 100% of Luhansk province is no longer a fact.

Explanation 2.
The comment about the Russian cruise missiles refers to a story of last week(?) which reported that a Russian submarine with cruise missiles on it had sneaked into the Black Sea through the Bosphorus. I assumed that the Russians had used all of their stock of cruise missiles held in Crimea and that the missiles fired had to be from that vessel.

I am hoping to provide evidence regarding the sub story.