Russian invasion of Ukraine

[DrBlueBob]

Who doesn’t ?

Fair point well made, although I reserve the right to don my flip flops if it's shingle.

 

[Magicpole]

Until Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, the Russians were part of the Axis. Any Pole would tell you that (Katyn forest).
The Russians' success was equally built on Studebaker trucks (prior to Kursk); British/American merchant navy convoys to Murmansk from mid-1941 onwards; Siberians and women.
The Americans turned up two years late (Sept 1939 to Dec. 1941) due to their Act of Neutrality. (They turned up late for WWI (3 years). They did put a shift in after that and Lend Lease was useful before they joined. (They did get their pound of flesh but hey their uber capitalists).
The Russians stood and watched during the Warsaw Uprising.
The Russians took control of half of Europe for 50 years.

It would appear that Putin's Russia either learns nothing from history or rinses and repeats.

No (US) trucks; weak logistics.
Invade a country and kill the intelligentsia.
Invade a country and transfer their population (especially children) to the four corners of the homeland.
Use the populations of the outer territories to do the fighting.
Uses commissars (Chechens) to keep the troops going forwards.
He is tempted to roll out the T34s.
His troops are as savage to non-combatants as they were in 1944/45 on the Road to Berlin.

All true. But so is their effort that ensured victory.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

All true. But so is their effort that ensured victory.

And grab half of Europe for themselves as part of the process.

 

[Magicpole]

And grab half of Europe for themselves as part of the process.

Yes. And us the other half.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

And grab half of Europe for themselves as part of the process.

Both can be true

 

[ultimateharold]

Anything happening in Ukraine?

 

[CTID1977]

Anything happening in Ukraine?

 

[cleavers]

I think a lot has been "abandoned" rather than destroyed, but the russians won't be using any of it again for a while haha.

 

[west didsblue]

Do you know if that includes both equipment destroyed and equipment abandoned that Ukraine can re-use?

 

[CTID1977]

Do you know if that includes both equipment destroyed and equipment abandoned that Ukraine can re-use?

According to some videos from there most of the equipment were abandoned and in perfect conditions. Some experts say from all these equipment Ukraine can make two tank brigades