Russian invasion of Ukraine

Maybe it's time to spread the rumour that we may lend/lease Ukraine a Trident nuclear submarine if Russian uses nukes?
Putin may think that the West would do nothing if he used a tactical nuclear weapon, but I doubt that he would feel the same way about a Ukrainian nuclear submarine crew.
We should start training immediately and I'm sure that Ukraine still has knowledgeable people who have experience with all aspects of nuclear weapon systems. :)
Not sure you have thought that through.
 
China uses a large amount of that money on its military why would it do that they have plenty for defence but keep growing. War would alow them to take over Taiwan for resources and maybe Japan. Putin is putting over the idea to these supporting countries that the west is bullying them and making them second rate countries to serve them. There is a lot of anger amongst certain countries to the west Russia North Korea Iran ect
If it’s resources they want, taking Taiwan would be a poor move. Much better to reclaim Vladivostok and all of the surrounding areas that were ceded to Russia in the 1800s following the Treaty of Peking. The area is mineral rich including lots of rare Earth metals.
 
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All depends the scale of the war if shall we say the east as a combined force can capture raw materials ect it can charge what it wants. This is the poorer east trying to take over
Worth noting that China owns just shy of a trillion USD of American government debt - if ww3 were to happen and the Americans get hit, not only do they lose their biggest customer, they will possibly not get their trillion dollars back - China goes down the pan as well - it's a no win game economically for everyone as well.

putin needs taking out and soon!
 
From the guardian sounds like china population behind Russia

The only thing China gives a shit about is China. They'll go where the money is.

Which, obviously, isn't Russia.

They're playing both sides at the moment, as is their right and is in their best interests. But if it comes down to it they're sure as shit not backing that bald fraud.
Within minutes of Putin’s statement, thousands of comments poured into China’s Twitter-like platform, Weibo and became the secon-highest trending topic.

China’s response to the invasion has been in stark contrast to that of the west. The two countries’ leaders have declared an unlimited partnership, and while not explicit, China’s support for Russia appears to be growing. Information control and a rising sense of nationalism and anti-western sentiment has also fostered domestic Chinese support for Putin’s actions.

Among the comments on Tuesday, many were amazed by Putin’s determination to go “all in” for the war, and supported his decision. Others said American hegemony must come to an end and this was a perfect opportunity. Some suggested that if Russia lost this war, China would be left alone as the next target to be singled out by the west.

“The situation doesn’t look optimistic, foreign affairs don’t matter, the key is that if Russia has fallen, and the west will only be left with China to deal with, then our life will definitely be more difficult by then,” said one.

“From our country’s standpoint, we need a Russia that is not strong but not down!” said another, suggesting some unease with a potential power struggle between Russia and China.

Only a few comments viewed by the Guardian empathised with the Ukrainian side and hoped that the war wouldn’t escalate to another level. A short time later replies to those comments were no longer visible.
 
From the guardian sounds like china population behind Russia


Within minutes of Putin’s statement, thousands of comments poured into China’s Twitter-like platform, Weibo and became the secon-highest trending topic.

China’s response to the invasion has been in stark contrast to that of the west. The two countries’ leaders have declared an unlimited partnership, and while not explicit, China’s support for Russia appears to be growing. Information control and a rising sense of nationalism and anti-western sentiment has also fostered domestic Chinese support for Putin’s actions.

Among the comments on Tuesday, many were amazed by Putin’s determination to go “all in” for the war, and supported his decision. Others said American hegemony must come to an end and this was a perfect opportunity. Some suggested that if Russia lost this war, China would be left alone as the next target to be singled out by the west.

“The situation doesn’t look optimistic, foreign affairs don’t matter, the key is that if Russia has fallen, and the west will only be left with China to deal with, then our life will definitely be more difficult by then,” said one.

“From our country’s standpoint, we need a Russia that is not strong but not down!” said another, suggesting some unease with a potential power struggle between Russia and China.

Only a few comments viewed by the Guardian empathised with the Ukrainian side and hoped that the war wouldn’t escalate to another level. A short time later replies to those comments were no longer visible.
Why are you providing this as an empirical basis for evidence of Chinese public support? It’s a couple of quotes off the internet. Fucking Weibo ffs.
 
Why are you providing this as an empirical basis for evidence of Chinese public support? It’s a couple of quotes off the internet. Fucking Weibo ffs.

I am not a person who follows the global dick waving scheme of things but I do know that China sell the west a hell of a lot of things which makes them a hell of a lot of money. I very much doubt that they would want to harm any of their customers specially the ones who pay top dollar, it would be counter productive.

Some bellend in Beijing with a PC and an axe to grind isn't china :)
 

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