Russian invasion of Ukraine

[aguero93:20]

Not quite the same as disobeying an order, though mate.

Protocol and orders are the same thing lad. Higher command don't always have the time to give you orders (just as a coach can't run on the pitch and tell a full back what to do) so you have set instructions instead for those situations. Nuclear strikes are all pre-existing orders.

 

[blueinsa]

Think he’s on the verge of losing the practical authority to launch nukes. Just an opinion obviously, but logic, plus the fact that their pre-2014 borders aren’t under any threat whatsoever, disctates that Russia has far more to lose than gain from such a step. China and India will disown them straight away for a start.

Human beings are selfish and pre programmed to survive.

Once his close allies feel the heat and the end for themselves, Putin will be no more it’s that simple.

As I have already said, negotiations will be going on as we speak that gives these cunts the off ramp they need and whilst it’s unpalatable for us given we want to see them suffer, politically it’s what will happen.

Putins war is lost. It’s now a matter of how and when he saves what little face he thinks he still has and who the west feels they can stomach to replace him.

Someone will fancy the gig and that someone will have no issue in putting an end to Putin politically to get it either.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Human beings are selfish and pre programmed to survive.

Once his close allies feel the heat and the end for themselves, Putin will be no more it’s that simple.

As I have already said, negotiations will be going on as we speak that gives these cunts the off ramp they need and whilst it’s unpalatable for us given we want to see them suffer, politically it’s what will happen.

Putins war is lost. It’s now a matter of how and when he saves what little face he thinks he still has and who the west feels they can stomach to replace him.

Someone will fancy the gig and that someone will have no issue in putting an end to Putin politically to get it either.

I agree. He’s done.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Protocol and orders are the same thing lad. Higher command don't always have the time to give you orders (just as a coach can't run on the pitch and tell a full back what to do) so you have set instructions instead for those situations. Nuclear strikes are all pre-existing orders.

I think the former affords a greater degree of discretion than the latter.

 

[Gabriel]

Putins war is lost. It’s now a matter of how and when he saves what little face he thinks he still has

 

[BlueAnorak]

"acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public"

Giddy up, more terrorism please Ukraine.

Your wish is my command...
Smoking in Moscow...
or should that be Barad-Dur...

 

[aguero93:20]

Smoking in Moscow, ir is it Barad-Dur...

"Your City's on fire, your army is terrified!"

 

[grunge]

Oh it'll be nuclear war though. 4 NATO countries border Ukraine and 3 NATO countries have nuclear weapons.

It’s pretty clear NATO won’t use nukes from fall out. A direct strike maybe.

 

[northendenton]

Could well fall foul of an ice pick in retirement though.

Once upon a time in mexico

 

[aguero93:20]

It’s pretty clear NATO won’t use nukes from fall out. A direct strike maybe.

I don't think you're right on that one mate, any fallout on NATO or allied territory would be viewed as a direct strike because the damage caused by the fallout would be horrendous.