IF THIS^^^Personally i think it unlikely the Ukrainians are considering using a crudely made nuclear device in a war they are already winning.
More likely the Russians are preparing the narrative of denial afterwards by projecting before using a Nuclear weapon to try stop advancing Ukrainian forces..
THEN THIS^^^This will be a US/NATO red Line crossed.And highly likely escalate the regional conflict in to a full blownWorldRegional war.Quite possibly a nuclear war.
US has already warned Russia it will sink its Black Sea fleet as part of the retaliation.And directly hit Russian forces.US 101st Airborne Division is already just miles from Ukraine border.
Ukraine crisis is at dangerous tipping point.
Who'd have thought it, economic and diplomatic stability and openness mean that peace itself is threatening to non-democratic states. He's merely managed to consider that in the light of a mind that says this is nothing whatsoever to do with flaws in the non-democratic states. Because they really are very unfortunate, aren't they, pursuing an even more flawed path than us. No other choice open to their leaders, whatsoever.@Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese
“The problem with the U.S. is it has a sort of Liverpudlian always offended, never ashamed defense/foreign policy - they can encircle China or push eastwards across Europe for the good of global security and world peace.”
Which part have you not enjoyed? The global security or the world peace.
As for “they,” are you saying that the US is an occupying force in Western Europe and in “encircling” China???
Fuck me, that’s a Stretch Armstrong move!!
No need for a “Thank you,” you’re welcome!
BBC reporting Ruskies are reinforcing Kherson city with more troops and the previously reported exodus was a bluff. There’s going to be some serious blood-letting on both sides sadly as the battle for Kherson unfolds.
@ChicagoBlue This thread is about Ukraine and an invasion but I will touch on the subject of the U.S. I would say they are the best of a bad bunch. The Iran Contra affair, Panama, Iraq are a few examples that show they do not seek peace and stability.@Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese
“The problem with the U.S. is it has a sort of Liverpudlian always offended, never ashamed defense/foreign policy - they can encircle China or push eastwards across Europe for the good of global security and world peace.”
Which part have you not enjoyed? The global security or the world peace.
As for “they,” are you saying that the US is an occupying force in Western Europe and in “encircling” China???
Fuck me, that’s a Stretch Armstrong move!!
No need for a “Thank you,” you’re welcome!
@ChicagoBlue This thread is about Ukraine and an invasion but I will touch on the subject of the U.S. I would say they are the best of a bad bunch. The Iran Contra affair, Panama, Iraq are a few examples that show they do not seek peace and stability.
I disagree. The number one interest for America is America which is why I quoted the conflicts that I did.No but they favor American interests.
And the #1 interest for America long term is water/ food security.
- Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe.
- If Russians take over Ukraine they can use food as a weapon.
- Europe isn't poor.
- They can afford to buy food and say fuck you to Russia!
- But this will mean food that we grow in America will be sold in Europe at exorbitant prices!
- Hence Americans will be the ones hurting as they won't have access to cheap food.
Hell we're complaining about not having dollar meals at McDonalds anymore.
So it is very much in American interests to make sure Ukraine isn't in Russian hands.. and you can transpose that about Taiwan and semiconductors too.
If anything food is more important since you eat everyday vs semiconductors you buy once every 4-5 years unless you buy new phones every year!
If this thread IS about Ukraine & Russia, I’d say it’s neither a deflection nor a distraction to state that the USA is currently showing itself to be the best friend Ukraine has “in Europe,” as it conducts exercises on the border and sends billions upon billions in aid!@ChicagoBlue This thread is about Ukraine and an invasion but I will touch on the subject of the U.S. I would say they are the best of a bad bunch. The Iran Contra affair, Panama, Iraq are a few examples that show they do not seek peace and stability.