Russian invasion of Ukraine

SPIDERBOY said:
The US contemplating sending Abrams tanks to Ukraine.
Apparently to give Germany a bit of a nudge in doing the same with the Leopards.

Slava Ukraini.
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If they do I bet they wont see the front line. Put them defending the north of Kyiv from any future attacks. short supply lines, Antonov airport near by for jet fuel supplies etc.
 
blueish swede said:
139 Leopards could be delivered from Rheinmetall if the Bundesregeirung give the nod.
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Those Leopards from industry will be 88 Leo 1 (not what needed plus very limited amount of ammo, if sources are correct)
and 22 Leo 2, ready to deliver end of 2023...
and 29 Leo 2 in exchange for T-72s from other countries (swap deal).

It seems more probable that Germany would contribute
19 Leo 2/A5 that won't be upgraded anymore and will be out of service in 2026 anyway (German tv published a detailed list of Leo 2 subtypes in German army til 2026).

The whole debate seems to be an orchestrated play to pretend western countries are divided on that topic only to stretch all those tank/weapon supply news and follow the route of gradual escalation.

Only a fool would believe NATO didn't have a plan when tanks would be needed latest and the time frame for all steps necessary to reach that aim. IMO.
 
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