Russian invasion of Ukraine

[CTID1977]

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[SPIDERBOY]

46th Air Mobile Brigade attacking the Western parts of Verbove.
82nd Assault Brigade have entered Verbove from the north.
Zaporizhzhia Region.

Slava Ukraini.

These 2 Brigades have gone through at least 6km worth of Russian defence lines in this area.
Helped out by Ukrainian Airforce.
Russians have retreated to the South of Verbove.
After Verbove,to the South,there is a huge gap in Defence lines with a distance of about 11km to them.
Maybe a chance to encircle a good chunk of Russians?

Slava Ukraini.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

There are many things that aren't worth wasting your time discussing on here. If it goes against the narrative you'll get piled on and called a nonce, conspiracy nut job or summat by the ignorant self righteous mob or it'll be deleted by a mod..

Rag!

 

[flook]

sure, but you will have to look long and hard to find less propaganda than in the football forum war reporting. You'll get banned easily for no other reason than displaying slightest ability to think for yourself. So I'd advice people to go elsewhere for reality check on what's really going on behind the propaganda. I hope the war will end with a peaceful negotiation before it escalates to nuclear world war. You cannot beat a nuclear power without first enduring a nuclear war. It's an inevitable logical fact.

I'll agree that you almost certainly cannot conquer a nuclear power without first enduring a nuclear war, however the rest of what you have scribbled is plain wrong.

Russia can be beaten from both within and without without resort to the nuclear option, but Russia will still be there as a sovereign nation afterwards. Only the regime will be gone

 

[BlueAnorak]

Day 561 Review:

Ukraine Invasion Day 561: RU memes of "Tactically Left, Negative Advancement..."

Tactical versus Strategic withdrawal means "Tactically left", "negative advancement", "regrouping of troops", and "goodwill gesture"; much like the “line of crapola” or Crayola. Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in the Bakhmut and...

www.dailykos.com

 

[grunge]

I'll agree that you almost certainly cannot conquer a nuclear power without first enduring a nuclear war, however the rest of what you have scribbled is plain wrong.

Russia can be beaten from both within and without without resort to the nuclear option, but Russia will still be there as a sovereign nation afterwards. Only the regime will be gone

Yep this is correct. Conquer and defeat are 2 very different things.

 

[BlueAnorak]

These 2 Brigades have gone through at least 6km worth of Russian defence lines in this area.
Helped out by Ukrainian Airforce.
Russians have retreated to the South of Verbove.
After Verbove,to the South,there is a huge gap in Defence lines with a distance of about 11km to them.
Maybe a chance to encircle a good chunk of Russians?

Slava Ukraini.

JDAMS proving very useful.

 

[BlueAnorak]

There are many things that aren't worth wasting your time discussing on here. If it goes against the narrative you'll get piled on and called a nonce, conspiracy nut job or summat by the ignorant self righteous mob or it'll be deleted by a mod..

Just a thought, but perhaps if you discussed rather than wading in with preconceived ideas that are total bollocks you might get somewhere.

 

[KS55]

sure, but you will have to look long and hard to find less propaganda than in the football forum war reporting. You'll get banned easily for no other reason than displaying slightest ability to think for yourself. So I'd advise people to go elsewhere for reality check on what's really going on behind the propaganda. I hope the war will end with a peaceful negotiation before it escalates to nuclear world war. You cannot beat a nuclear power without first enduring a nuclear war. It's an inevitable logical fact.

Is “think for yourself” in your post is a euphemism for “support Russia”?
No- one ever got banned from here for thought crimes.
In fact, this thread has more hard info than the BBC, for example.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The four whopping lies...
- The US is bad - anti US is good. The US is imposing its financial/commercial/colonial hegemony on the rest of the world. Therefore if the US is supporting Ukraine then Russia must be right! In many aspects this is a classic colonial war by Russia. Sadly the "US is evil" brigade (aka "Tankies") have this as their default position. They are so filled with hate, they fail to see that Russia is doing what they claim the US does.
- Ukraine allows Nazism to thrive. There is only one party in this war that is allowing Nazism to thrive and it isn't Ukraine. Who is purposfully killing, torturing and raping civilians? Who wants to wipe an ethnicity of the map? It isn't Ukraine. Who is embracing its minorities with a Jewish President and Tartars, Hungarians even some Ethnic Russians in government poisitions - oh that would be Ukraine.
- This war is killing so many. It has to stop at any cost. Serriously? Why so Russia can re-arm and come again? So Ukrainians in occupied land can be wiped out or their culture erased. Ask yourself this: Has Putin ever stuck to an agreement? The answer is NO! So why stop the war when the Russians are clearly losing? A slow motion defeat in progress, but a defeat nontheless.
- Russian propaganda has a basis in truth. What the fuck? When do Russian spokesmen EVER tell the truth. Q: How do you know when a Russisn spokesman is lying - A: They open their mouths and begin to talk.