Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

So you think China would choose to cut off trade with the west rather than Putin. I don't. 35 times is the number you need to remember. Its all about brinkmanship.

China will not cut off trade with the west, that is the same with Russia.
The west ,if they want to ,they can cut off trade with China.
It's up to the west. China will open to everyone, including the UK.
I am Chinese, that is our goverment's policy, everyone know it.

 

[cleavers]

OK why haven't they then??

You'll need to ask Zelensky that question, but 2 days ago they put 4 missiles into a ship in a harbour, only a few miles away, and obliterated it.

Perhaps there are (for now) just bigger and more important targets than a bit of road/rail.

 

[mosssideblue]

I have said from the start of this war three things need to happen for it to end quickly and Putin to be deposed.

1. The trade embargo needs to be complete, China should be given a choice trade with Putins Russia or trade with the west. The West is a trading block 35 times the size of tin pot Russia. Any Western Company found to be trading with Russia should be fined heavily.

2. All Russians regardless of status, wealth or politics should be expelled from the west back to their shitty country until Russia withdraws from Ukriane and Crimea. Everyday Russians should be made to suffer like their country has made Ukraine suffer.

3. The West should give/sell Ukraine whatever it needs to take the war to Russias military. That includes, long range missiles to take out the Kerch Bridge and unlimited access to Musks Skylink. Tinkering round the edges doesn't end wars, it just prolongs them.

Agree with all of that, but thought they already have the capability of taking out the bridge.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

And if Trump gets in and the war ends and Ukraine loses sovereignty, would you be happy resuming trade with Putins Russia. Not for me I'm afraid.

Of course not. Weird take.

You’re welcome to read through my previous posts in this thread, my opinions on this war are clear.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

So you think China would choose to cut off trade with the west rather than Putin. I don't. 35 times is the number you need to remember. Its all about brinkmanship.

I guess you have never played poker?? ;-)

Secondly I don't care as much as you do for Russians living in the West when Ukrainians are suffering. You take the war to the Russian people and it will end sooner. Its as simple as that.

Ah if it’s so simple then you should get off here and get a job at the UN then mate. It’ll be sorted by the end of the week.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Ah if it’s so simple then you should get off here and get a job at the UN then mate. It’ll be sorted by the end of the week.

I think it's down to the lack of leadership we have with politicians these days.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Of course not. Weird take.

You’re welcome to read through my previous posts in this thread, my opinions on this war are clear.

It's not a weird take, it was just a question based in your summation of what is likely or may happen.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

You'll need to ask Zelensky that question, but 2 days ago they put 4 missiles into a ship in a harbour, only a few miles away, and obliterated it.

Perhaps there are (for now) just bigger and more important targets than a bit of road/rail.

I seriously don't think they have. As there is no logical reason not to destroy it. They are going after supply routes everywhere else are they not?

Perhaps the bridge is much better protected than the harbour?

Perhaps they don't have the ordnance to destroy the bridge, the ship was loaded with ordnance which destroyed it when detonated.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

You'll need to ask Zelensky that question, but 2 days ago they put 4 missiles into a ship in a harbour, only a few miles away, and obliterated it.

Perhaps there are (for now) just bigger and more important targets than a bit of road/rail.

There's no point in blowing up the bridge unless Ukraine are in a position to go on the offensive is there?

My hunch is the ship was chosen as a target because it demonstrates what Ukraine can do and could do if given more powerful weaponry.

 

[bluegray]

I seriously don't think they have. As there is no logical reason not to destroy it. They are going after supply routes everywhere else are they not?

Perhaps the bridge is much better protected than the harbour?

Perhaps they don't have the ordnance to destroy the bridge, the ship was loaded with ordnance which destroyed it when detonated.

Perhaps you have answered your own question in the sense the bridge is heavily protected with Russian air defence. Ukraine may think, you have a few extra systems on the bridge as you're paranoid we want to bring it down and we'll hit what we think are more beneficial military targets which are less protected. Meaning more likely to have success. It's a numbers game.