Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Crooked_rain]

Yeah it’s easy to sit and tell lies for the likes of Putin so probably best nobody with a moral compass goes anywhere near the ****.

I think I’ll dismiss anybody who says ‘I’m not a supporter of Putin, but…’

Well, if you read my other posts a few up, you'll see I certainly don't support him and think he basically played the interviewer by talking a lot but shutting up shop when it didn't suit him or his agenda.

The post you replied to was simply an observation as to why there's no way senile Biden could never really converse with people like that. That's quite worrying when the US president basically comes of as senile in comparison to these people that they're supposed to be pushing back against.

By the way, 3 of my grandparents were Russian and my family and me still don't support Putin or Russia, probably for reasons much closer to home than home than you have. So don't worry, you don't need to dismiss what I say, my opposition of what's happening is pure.

 

[Crooked_rain]

If you honestly don't think the questions and answers were not already predetermined and rehearsed you are a lunatic. The Truman show was less fake.

Rehearsed or not, he still comes across way more coherent and lucid than Joe Biden who can't even read a script in front of his eyes.

Worrying when the supposed leader of the free world can't even string a sentence together in comparison to the people they should be pushing back against.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If the war stops now and Ukraine give Russia the lands it holds the second after that they become part of NATO, no ifs or buts any twat tries to veto it gets kicked out of NATO, that’s the only way you stop him coming further later. If the orange Gimp gets in Europe need to step up like Poland is doing and get a military that can fight Russia although I think we have the technology to do that already. Never stop sanctions on Russia turn them into North Korea take all the frozen money give it to Ukraine to rebuild.

What a legacy for Putin. Will have probably have doubled the length of the Russian border touching NATO territory. Given the invasion was designed to prevent the further expansion of NATO, that particular outcome can only be properly characterised as a spectacular failure.

I also think what gets overlooked is the way this conflict has caused a huge diminishment in Russian military equipment, strength and standing.

It’s actually been a hugely effective way of NATO depleting the Russian threat, and it can’t be ruled out that the level of support has been aimed at that rather than outright Russian defeat. its certainly perfectly plausible.

I think it’s safe to assume that the ‘SMO‘ has hugely impacted on Russia’s military capability, which clearly suits NATO greatly.

 

[Phil1]

Well, if you read my other posts a few up, you'll see I certainly don't support him and think he basically played the interviewer by talking a lot but shutting up shop when it didn't suit him or his agenda.

The post you replied to was simply an observation as to why there's no way senile Biden could never really converse with people like that. That's quite worrying when the US president basically comes of as senile in comparison to these people that they're supposed to be pushing back against.

By the way, 3 of my grandparents were Russian and my family and me still don't support Putin or Russia, probably for reasons much closer to home than home than you have. So don't worry, you don't need to dismiss what I say, my opposition of what's happening is pure.

Nobody could converse with Putin in good faith though because it won’t be reciprocated.

I accept the rest of your post though.

 

[Scottyboi]

Well, if you read my other posts a few up, you'll see I certainly don't support him and think he basically played the interviewer by talking a lot but shutting up shop when it didn't suit him or his agenda.

The post you replied to was simply an observation as to why there's no way senile Biden could never really converse with people like that. That's quite worrying when the US president basically comes of as senile in comparison to these people that they're supposed to be pushing back against.

By the way, 3 of my grandparents were Russian and my family and me still don't support Putin or Russia, probably for reasons much closer to home than home than you have. So don't worry, you don't need to dismiss what I say, my opposition of what's happening is pure.

Putin never gets questioned or held to account, we have no idea how he would actually react to a debate with someone like Biden as he is use to having it all his own way. I reckon he would get angry very quickly like most little short syndrome dictators.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

But anyone advocating for it now is plainly doing so on the broad basis of the latter, namely keep what you’ve got. There is no other logical option. The notion that Russia are going to give up territory in exchange for a few undertakings around Russian culture is actually insane.

Correct they aren't going to. Maybe if Ukraine recognises Crimea as Russian sovereign territory they might give back some of Ukraine proper.

Would they give back the industrial heartlands in the Donbass? Probably not.

 

[Scottyboi]

Correct they aren't going to. Maybe if Ukraine recognises Crimea as Russian sovereign territory they might give back some of Ukraine proper.

Would they give back the industrial heartlands in the Donbass? Probably not.

Think they will wait it out till after the US election, and if it doesn't go in their favour they will seek a settlement. If Europe steps up more collectively in support they might make the war untenable for russia with pressure back home growing due to the cost and the dead. Feels like it is balanced on a knife edge at the moment though.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Think they will wait it out till after the US election, and if it doesn't go in their favour they will seek a settlement. If Europe steps up more collectively in support they might make the war untenable for russia with pressure back home growing due to the cost and the dead. Feels like it is balanced on a knife edge at the moment though.

How can they make the war untenable to Russia though? Europe has deliberately not escalated the war and they aren't going to reverse that position with all the risks involved.

Russians in far away villages are content to run into the meat grinder for their motherland.

There needs to be a new mutiny or coup to force a change of the situation.

 

[cleavers]

I would revoke his passport. Let him enjoy Putin and Russias freedoms for as long as he wants.

Exactly my thoughts on him, he can have a new best mate until he says something his "mate" doesn't like, and falls from a raised window.

I don't know why our media are giving him (and putin) air time in the UK. I won't be watching it or reading about it either.

 

[cleavers]

What a legacy for Putin. Will have probably have doubled the length of the Russian border touching NATO territory. Given the invasion was designed to prevent the further expansion of NATO, that particular outcome can only be properly characterised as a spectacular failure.

I also think what gets overlooked is the way this conflict has caused a huge diminishment in Russian military equipment, strength and standing.

It’s actually been a hugely effective way of NATO depleting the Russian threat, and it can’t be ruled out that the level of support has been aimed at that rather than outright Russian defeat. its certainly perfectly plausible.

I think it’s safe to assume that the ‘SMO‘ has hugely impacted on Russia’s military capability, which clearly suits NATO greatly.

Totally agree with that, it has suited NATO to the ground, not something we should be proud off, and yet we still have former NATO officials telling us that POland will be next, when it's plain they won't, that's just scaremongering shit.