Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Pappa P]

No agreement was made and countries shouldn’t be dictated to as to what treaties they want to join.

Russia did however sign a treaty saying they would defend Ukraine’s borders. A treaty they broke.

If Russia wasn’t a threat then countries wouldn’t be wanting to join NATO. Quite simple really.

That's a new one. Maybe City could use that for the 115, "the rules don't exist"

 

[grunge]

That's a new one. Maybe City could use that for the 115, "the rules don't exist"

Point me at the agreement documents that say nato wouldn’t take in countries near Russia.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Because....and wait for it....drum roll....that was never his objective. Get it now.

If it was he'd not only be marching through Kiev but probably London too.

Oh do fuck off and when you’ve done that fuck off some more.

 

[mosssideblue]

Point me at the agreement documents that say nato wouldn’t take in countries near Russia.

The troll is having his 5 mins. Be his bedtime soon

 

[grunge]

The troll is having his 5 mins. Be his bedtime soon

Agreed. But good trolls can usually point at some random out of context stuff to back themselves up.

 

[mosssideblue]

Agreed. But good trolls can usually point at some random out of context stuff to back themselves up.

Not this one, he’s just spouting shit

 

[Bluewonder]

Pappa P pleasures Putin's pe*is

 

[fulabeer]

NATO defensive. Haha

Why, how many countries have they ever invaded? (or intended to invade?)
It's an alliance of separate nations.
Created to defend against crackpot dictators like your beloved Pukin.

Also, if Russians were being killed in the Ukraine, why didn't they just go home? You know, to their homeland?
Russian speaking rebels sent there to destabilise the Ukraine more like it. AKA terrorists.

You know when a Russian is lying....his lips are moving!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Point me at the agreement documents that say nato wouldn’t take in countries near Russia.

This tedious line is always trotted out by people who have been gaslit by Putin. They point to some nebulous agreement that was struck at the end of the Cold War with Gorbachev that, unlike the Budapest Memorandum (which Russia broke when it invaded Ukraine) was mysteriously never reduced to writing, which is just how multilateral agreements routinely operate, of course.

Even if it were true (and it’s not) then the trajectory and track record of the Russian state since would make it entirely justified in any event.

 

[dickie davies]

For Ukraine not to enter NATO and for NATO to not place military facilities on Russia's border.

Pretty much as was agreed and that which NATO decided to ignore. Seems incredibly reasonable, I don't think we'd like China parking up in Scotland.

You ignored my post about Sweden and Finland
Two countries that stayed out of NATO to "keep the peace"
But when ruSSia invaded Ukraine, the trust was broken and now ruSSia has a larger border with NATO